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CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Port Angeles, Washington
January 8, 1992
CALL TO ORDER - The City Council met in special session at 2:15 p.m., in the Peninsula College
SPECIAL MEETING: Library Conference Room, to discuss matters pertinent to the Proposed "Elwha River
Ecosystem and Fisheries Restoration Act' and to prepare for a meeting with Senator
Brock Adams, also regarding the proposed legislation.
ROLL CALL: Members Present: Mayor HaileR, Councilmen Braun, Nicholson, and
Ostrowski, Councilwoman Sargent, and Councilmen
Schueler and Wight.
Members Absent: None.
Staff Present: Manager Pomeranz, Attorney Knutson, Clerk Upton, J.
Pittis, and S. Hursh.
Others Present: Clyde Boddy, Port of Port Angeles
Margaret Crawford, Clallam County EDC
Alan Drew, Clallam County P.U.D.
Bill McCrorie, Clallam County P.U.D.
Lawrence Gaydeski, Clallam County
Jim Rumpeltes, Clallam County
Cindy Kelly, Dry Creek Water Association
Judith St. Claire, Clallam County EDC
Dave Cameron, Clallam County
Senator Brock Adams
Carole Grunberg, Legislative Assistant, Senator Adams
Mike Weland, Staff Assistant, Senator Adams
Jim Gunsolus, Staff Assistant, Senator Adams
Dave Gallik, State Director, Senator Adams
Erie Niles, Legislative Assistant, Congressman Swift
Dr. James Walton, Peninsula College
Elwha River Ecosystem Discussion was held with regard to various specific concerns with the proposed
and Fisheries legislation, particularly as they relate to the different jurisdictions represented at this
Restoration Act meeting. The discussion was intended to establish a presentation for the forthcoming
meeting with Senator Adams.
Senator Adams and staff joined the group at 3:25 p.m. After introduction of all
present, Councilwoman Sargent opened the discussion by welcoming Senator Adams
and advising him that members of the group were prepared to specifically address
particular issues relating to the proposed legislation.
Councilman Schueler inquired of Senator Adams as to the expected timeline on the
legislation. Senator Adams responded the purpose of this visit was to be certain
everyone at this meeting and in the community understood that a bill would not be
introduced until they had talked to all concerned; it is important to establish a process
which would avoid lawsuits and challenges. Senator Adams indicated the primary
- goal was to be certain that power remains at the mill at the appropriate cost in order
to assure the mill's continued operation in Port Angeles. The second goal, as
outlined by Senator Adams, was to maintain the Port Angeles water supply for
residential and industrial purposes, with the added consideration of water quality.
Once these goals have been met and once they have satisfactory agreements for
power and water supply, then a task force would be formed, to include
representatives of the City, Dry Creek Water Association, etc., to examine the dams
and see what could or could not be done.
Senator Adams referenced the possibility that the dams may not be able to be taken
down at all and he noted it may be possible for a partial breakdown of the dams
which would be accomplished over a period of time. Dewatering would be done
very slowly. Senator Adams indicated the charges for power would be lower or at
least as low as they are now, and the cost would be put at the end of Bonneville's
forty-year payment. In the meantime, power would be assured off the grid.
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Elwha River Ecosystem Senator Adams indicated he would ask that Senator Bill Bradley, Chairman of the
and Fisheries Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, visit the area for a public hearing.
Restoration Act (Cont'd) In addition, once agreement has been reached with the Washington delegation, the
next step would be the introduction of the bill in late January or early February. He
reiterated the desire to avoid controversy throughout the process and noted that,
should the matter become controversial, the process would be extended.
City Manager Pomeranz inquired as to how much time the City will be afforded to
submit written comments. Mike Weland indicated it would be helpful to have the
comments by January 24. Ms. Grunberg reminded the group that once the bill is
introduced, there is still opportunity for input.
Congressman Swift's representative, Eric Niles, reported that Congressman Swift is
very supportive of the plan, but continues to be concerned about water and water ·
quality for the City. He is also concerned about funding for the project.
Larry Gaydeski, Clallam County, reviewed the County's extreme concern with the
possible shortfall of revenue by approximately $252,000 because of dam removal.
It is felt the County cannot absorb such a loss, particularly in view of other impacts
on the County, such as timber revenue shortages. He asked that this be mitigated.
Mike Weland advised Mr. Gaydeski that it has not been intended that figs issue not
be addressed and, as a matter of fact, the State of Washington has been asked to
submit information as to tax issues relating to the project.
In addition, Mr. Gaydeski pointed out that both dams fall under the jurisdiction of
Clallam County, representatives of which have not been included in the proposed
task force. Senator Adams assured him the County will, in fact, be represented on
the task force. Mr. Gaydeski referenced an article published on this date in a Seattle
newspaper with regard to the pwposed dam removal.
Councilman Wight discussed the structure of the task force and noted it appears the
task force will be involved in deciding if the dams should be removed, but further,
it appears the task force will be involved in the process of restoration and
enhancement of the ecosystem of the Elwha basin. If that is the case, Councilman
Wight felt it would be helpful to understand the level of participation anticipated.
In terms of the process itself, the question keeps arising as to the purchase of the
Mike Weland responded that the notion of purchasing the dams has become an
extremely detailed process. The option is being considered that, if power can be
provided at a cost equal to what is currently being paid, then the ownership of the
dams could possibly be transferred to the Government. Such an option is being
given favorable consideration at this time by the current owner.
Senator Adams indicated this is a different and unusual project, and he warned the
group there will be an attack on all dams throughout the country at the time licensing
issues surface. It is his hope that legislation can be drafted which will address these
issues early on in order to avoid controversy, lawsuits, and the like. He felt the
problems which will arise on the other dams can be avoided in this particular
instance. Senator Adams felt all of the issues can be addressed, to include the tribal
issues, and that a corridor can be created out of the National Park wherein the water
will be moved to the sea. However, he emphasized they must take into account and
improve all of the local interests. This is an opportunity for the State of Washington
to put as many as 400,000 fish back into the system.
Councilman Wight noted that the process leads to the decision to remove the dams,
but if it is decided not to remove the dams, it would appear the Government will own
two dams. He suggested the addition of language for a scenario if removal is not the
option agreed upon. Mike Weland felt such a scenario had, in fact, been addressed
in the legislation (Page 9, Line 13); however, he agreed that perhaps more
clarification is in order. He noted it is their hope to give the task force as much
authority as possible; however, final authority may have to rest with the Secretary
of Interior, a matter which becomes a constitutional issue.
Councilman Wight concluded his comments by noting that an engineer is not likely
to say the dams cannot be removed; therefore, any other criteria in the decision-
making process should be incorporated.
Cindy Kelly, Dry Creek Water Association, wanted it clearly understood that Dry
Creek is not part of the City yet they wish to receive the same protections and
considerations as that of the City. They do share in the same concerns as to water
quality and would like to be included on the task force. Mike Weland recalled the
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Elwha River Ecosystem need to include Dry Creek and agreed this would be accomplished. Judith St.
and Fisheries Claire, Clallam County EDC, advised the Senator that the Economic Development
Restoration Act (Cont'd) Council shares in these concerns, as it has an interest in the development of
industrial land in the area of the Dry Creek Water Association.
Senator Adams related this is a marvelous opportunity. If water supplies can be
protected, power maintained, Indian housing moved and fish restored to the river,
then the City and County could develop the area with the intent of building the
tourism industry. All of this, however, has to be accomplished on a step-by-step
basis. He felt the project could be extremely successful by reintroducing eight of
nine species of fish to the system.
Councilwoman Sargent felt it important to note that all of the other rivers have
diminished fish runs and there are other factors beyond the dams which have
contributed to the current status. The dams cannot be fully blamed for diminished
fish runs. Senator Adams agreed wholeheartedly and indicated the problems are not
solely in the stream.
Manager Pomeranz noted that many of the concerns with long-term fiscal impacts
have already been addressed with Mr. Weland, but he specifically addressed the
concern with the cost of installing a water filtration system and the long-term
operational expenses to be incurred. Long-term funding must be provided for water
treatment. He referenced Page 11, Section 12, last sentence, and questioned the
intent. Mike Weland responded the intent of the last sentence is to ensure that the
Federal Government's investment in fish restoration is protected from future water
withdrawals which would ultimately reduce the flow of water so fish could not be
restored. Manager Pomeranz indicated the City feels the sentence is not in the City's
best interest in terms of water supply and allocation. He asked for additional
consideration in this regard in order to protect the City in the long term.
Dr. Walton, Peninsula College, applauded the effort toward restoration of the fish.
He referenced Section 10 concerning studies to be conducted on the condition of the
ecosystem, and urged that a comprehensive inventory of the system be conducted in
order to make valid decisions. Studies must be done on fish populations, as well as
primary and secondary productivity. Mike Weland agreed this issue needs a lot of
work by biologists; however, they are operating under the impression there is a lot
of base line data available at this time. Dr. Walton also indicated studies need to be
conducted as to what is transpiring outside the mouth of the river which has a direct
impact on habitat degradation and the river itself. He urged funding for what he
termed an excellent research opportunity.
Bill McCrorie, Clallam County P.U.D., noted that from the perspective of a utility,
a great deal of concern exists with regard to the possible loss of power if the dams
are removed. He expressed concern with the loss of a renewable resource, which
becomes particularly important in view of conservation efforts of BPA. There is
concern that the domino effect will become a reality with regard to other renewable
resources. He felt priority should be given to not taking the dams down but rather
to improve them.
Senator Adams opined these dams are not typical and he felt this project could be an
advantage to BPA. He referenced the problems being experienced at the present
time at the Snake and Columbia Rivers where millions and millions of dollars have
been spent transporting fish to the rivers in an effort to recreate the fish runs. These
programs have not been successful.
After further limited discussion and because of other commitments, Senator Adams
-- concluded the meeting by thanking all those in attendance for their input.
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting adjourned at 4:20 p.m.
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