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CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING
Port Angeles, Washington
April 12, 2005
CALL TO ORDER - Mayor Headrick called the special meeting of the Port Angeles City Council to order
SPECIAL MEETING: at 5:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL: Members Present: Mayor Headrick, Councilmembers Braun, Erickson,
Munro, Rogers, and Williams.
Members Absent: Councilmember Pittis.
StaffPresenr' Manager Quinn, Attorney Bloor, Clerk Upton, G. Cutler,
M. Madsen, T. Riepe, P. Reifenstahl, S. Romberg, K.
Dubuc, A. Goff, D Bellamente, and B. Coons.
Public Present: S. Hams; C. Kidd; S. Blair; J. & M. Senf; D., V., & S.
Tutton; R. & C. McDougall; E. Chadd; D. & A. Ruddick;
S. & T. Moore; R. & J. Vennetti; J. & K. Hoine; D.
Fairbaim; J., T., K., J., and D. Macias; E. & L. Richards;
A. Shaffer; T., L., & B. Crowley; S. Knapp; H. Shafer; M.,
H., & C. Juskevich; K., S., & K. Romberg; J., L., & J.
Pankowski; D. Maguire; G. Huff; S., E., A., and S.
Koehler; L. Fairchild; M. Hayman; J. LeDuke; D.
Tschimperle; T. Blair; T. & D. Holth; R., J., & K.
Garcelon; and A. Anderson. All others present in the
audience failed to sign the roster.
PLEDGE OF The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was led by Councilmember Munro.
ALLEGIANCE:
OTHER l. Resolution Supporting Passage of Port Angeles School District Maintenance
CONSIDERATIONS: & Operations Levy:
Resolution Supporting Mayor Headrick introduced the Resolution supporting the passage of the Port Angeles
Passage of Port Angeles School District Maintenance & Operations Levy. He read the Resolution by title,
School District M & O entitled
Levy
Resolution No. 6-05 RESOLUTION NO. 6-05
A RESOLUTION of the City Council of the City of Port Angeles,
Washington, in support of the Port Angeles School District No.
121 Maintenance & Operations Levy Renewal for 2006-2007.
Councilmember Braun moved to pass the Resolution as read by title. The motion
was seconded by Councilmember Rogers.
Mayor Headrick then opened the floor to public comment and, there being none at the
moment, Councilmember Munro commented he heard a presentation at a Rotary
meeting at which time Jim Jones, Port Angeles School District, shared the results of
..... academic achievement. In many cases, the results were stellar, and Councilmember
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OTHER Munro observed that the School District is in the top quartile in WASL testing and
CONSIDERATIONS: reading.
Resolution Supporting Jim Jones, Executive Director of Business and Operations, 2106 Seabreeze Place,
Passage of Port Angeles clarified that Standard & Pours recently announced a nationwide study that was
School District M & O undertaken to identify outperforming school districts. Port Angeles was selected as one
Levy of fifteen that were outperforming when considering the area demographics and poverty
Resolution No. 6-05 levels, as there has long been an association between the successes of schools in direct
correlation to the demographics and poverty levels in terms of performance. Mr. Jones
indicated that various grade levels, especially the 4th Grade, had the highest
performance during three consecutive years, and the 4th Grade is currently number one.
In addition, it was announced that five of the Port Angeles schools are in the top 10%
in the State, regardless of demographics.
M/kc Brown, 224 Whidby, addressed the WASL scores for the 10t~ Grade, indicating
that less than 35% of the students qualify to graduate. He felt the Port Angeles School
District was being considered stellar in its performance when, after viewing the State
School Superintendent'sweb site, it appears that less than one-third of the Port Angeles
students would have obtained the minimum level of required knowledge. When asked
by Mayor Headrick if he was in favor of the Resolution supporting the levy, Mr. Brown
stated he was not, as he felt the decision should be left to the voters.
There being no further public input, a vote was taken on the motion, which carried
unanimously.
Presentation from YMCA 2. Presentation from YMCA on Swimming Pool Proposal:
on Swimming Pool
Proposal Ray Graver, 2802 South Laurel and a member of the YMCA Board of Directors, was
present to submit a proposal on behalf of the YMCA to share the Y's developing vision
of the William Shore Memorial Pool to enhance family recreation in the community.
Mr. Graver, with the use of PowerPoint slides, provided a historical perspective of the
YMCA in the community and in the nation, particularly as relates to partnerships with
local govermnents on swimming pools. Citing the City's Comprehensive Plan, Mr.
Graver supported the concept of the City forging effective partnerships and
strengthening its ties with other pnhlic, private, and non-profit providers. He discussed
the proposed siting of the facility at the YMCA in order to gain a full-service
curm~unJty center in an ideal and central location that is also within the current
recreation corridor.
Mr. Graver touched on the subject of fees, indicating the YMCA would propose that
fees be set in concert with the City through a cooperative agreement created by the
partnership. Addressing the costs to operate the facility, Mr. Graver was of the opinion
that it would be more cost effective to operate one facility as opposed to two in terms
of a fitness and aquatic facility. He added that the YMCA has projected a savingsto
taxpayers in the amount of $200,000 per year and, further, that user fees of the Y and
the City would be identical. Mr. Gruver used as an example the Grays Harbor YMCA
in Aberdeen that generates significantly more in annual membership revenue than the
Clallam County YMCA. He indicated that YMCA scholarships would mean
affordability for the users.
He then directed attention to possible scenarios for capital construction costs, as well
as capital financing options. The Y is working with a consultant who is also working
with Port Townsend and the Jefferson County YMCA on recreational opportunities.
Mr. Gruver felt that governments are good at raising funds for capital investment;
however, non-profit organizations seem to excelin the operation of facilities, so he was
confident that the proposed partnership with the Ciw would be successful. Mr. Graver
advised the Council that the land for the facility and parking would be donated by the
YMCA, as the organization has made various property acquisitions in the area. He felt
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Presentation from YMCA it beneficial that the City Hall site would then be pre served for other opportunities. Mr.
on Swimming Pool Graver stressed the fact that non-profit organizations have a long history of being able
Proposal (Cont'd) to raise a lot of money to do great things for the community, and they can raise money
differently than government can.
Mr. Gruver discussed a breakdown of projected operational costs, based on
assumptions of what an aquatics center would cost to operate, and he reiterated the
value of the partnership in the interest of enhancing the potential for a great project.
The YMCA Board feels that the community deserves an outstanding facility to serve
the greatest number of people at the best possible cost, and it has agreed that the
proposed location would be good for the community. The Board strongly supported
a cooperative effort with the City, and it would welcome participation in a group to
further consider the proposal.
Dan Maguire, YMCA Executive Director, approached the podium to stress the
importance of the enhanced revenues that could be gained by combining the two
facilities. He pointed out the differences between the Grays Harbor facility and the
Clallam County facility, indicating there would be a synergy by combining all of the
activities.
Discussion followed, with Mr. Gruver answering questions posed by the Council.
Councilmember Rogers referenced the possible Washington State Housing and Finance
loan, wondering if it would qualify for a stressed area interest rate reduction. Gary
Huff, a member of the YMCA Board, approached the podium to respond, indicating
he had been in contact with the Housing and Finance Committee and had been
informed the project would qualify for a non-profit, tax exempt bond at a going rate of
4 - 6% interest. However, he didn't pose the specific question raised by
CouncilmemberRogers. Councilmember Munro inquired as to whether the YMCA had
quantified what might be contributed to a capital project of this magnitude, and Mr.
Graver indicated they had conducted a type of survey of the membership and learned
the membership would willingly payincreased membership fees to assure the project
moves forward. If a Metropolitan Park District were to be created, Councilmember
Williams inquired of Mr. Graver as to where he would envision the boundaries. Mr.
Graver briefly focused on different fees paid by City and County residents, and he felt
it would be logical to use the same boundaries as those presently used by the School
District. Economic & Community Development Director Madsen added that
collaboration brings great things, and it is advantageous to look beyond the borders of
the City in providing services. He agreed that it makes sense to panner with other
agencies and governments to extend services to the overall community which is not
necessarily defined by City limits.
Councilmember Braun asked what, under a worst case scenario, the YMCA would do
if it could no longer operate the facility. Mr. Graver felt that same questioncould be
asked of the City, and he indicated that other municipalities had been forced to close
swimmingpools because of the cost factor. For that reason, many YMCA's have been
asked to take over the operation of such facilities in those communities. He felt the
YMCA organization in Port Angeles has proven itself over the long term, and it has a
history of creating partnerships and working through very difficult times. Director
Madsen observed the interesting phenomenon of the time lag when a community
experiences economic distress. The impact on a government in terms of time is far
different than that experienced by non-profit organizations, as the non profits see a
more shallow influence on giving patterns.
Councilmember Mumo summarized a potential schedule regarding the pool, as the
matter was just considered the previous day by the Parks Subcommittee. The Pool
Steering Committee would meet by the end of April to select a preferred City Hall site,
the Committee would meet over a period of five to eight months to work on key
assumptions regarding City Hall and YMCA sites, public meetings would continue
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Presentation from YMCA during that time frame, and the City Council would meet at year end to select one of the
on Swimming Pool alternatives. The City Council would then communicate its decision to the voters for
Proposal (Cont'd) consideration of a bond issue or an alternative funding strategy in the Fall of 2006.
Construction of the pool would then be targeted for 2007. Discussion ensued as to the
current membership and representation on the Pool Steering Committee and, after
further consideration, it was agreed that two representatives from the YMCA should
join the group. Mr. Gruver assured Public Works & Utilities Director Cutler that he
would provide the names of the two representatives for the YMCA, and Director Cutler
announced that the next meeting of the Steering Committee is scheduled for
Wednesday, April 27, 2005, 6:00 p.m., in the Public Works Conference Room.
Break Mayor Headrick recessed the meeting fur a break at 6:25 p.m. The meeting reconvened
at 6:45 p.m.
Presentation from Port 3. Presentation from Port,,tngeles Swim Club Regarding Proposed Contract for
Angeles Swim Club Use of Pool:
Regarding Proposed
Contract Linda Crowley, 1614 W. 12th Street and Vice President of the Port Angeles SwimClub,
read a statement into the record regarding the Swim Club's position on a proposed
contract between the City and the Swim Club for use of the pool. Ms. Crowley
provided historical information on the Swim Club, the past usage of the pool over a
period of 40 years, current Club dues and expenses for each swimmer, as well as the
in.kind services provided by the Club the value of which is projected at $51,700. Ms.
Crowley addressed specific issues being proposed in the contract, which included
reduced pool space for the Club and increased fees to the swimmers, all of which she
indicated would have a detrimental effect on the Swim Club and its members. Ms.
Crowley discussed in detail the financial impacts, the progress or the lack thereof
pertinent to contract negotiations, and the fact that the City does not charge other youth
programs for the use of City facilities. Ms. Crowleyexpressed the hope that the City
Council would choose to support the youth of the community and restore the Swim
Club's full use of the pool without the increased charges. She felt that the Swim Club
members should not be viewed as a means of balancing the budget or to provide
additional revenue for the pool.
Dani Macias, a County resident, informed the Council of the difficulties her family of
four children would encounter if the increased fees were to be approved. She felt that
swimming is a great multi-age sport, and that the increased fees would essentially
establish a mechanism whereby it would be decided who could or could not join the
Swim Club. She urged the Council to be mindful of those who could not afford the
increased fees.
Darlene Knapp, a resident in Sequim, moved to the area one and one-half years ago
and, because of conditions at the Sequim pool, she and seven to eight other Sequim
families choose to drive their children to Port Angeles to participate in the Swim Club
activities. She cited the excellent coach who is teaching the children in Port Angeles,
and she acknowledged the fact that Parks & Recreation needs to make money, but she
felt it goes beyond charging fees. She opined that the City's image in this regard is
important, particularly as viewed by the outside communities.
Roger Wheeler, a County resident, advised the Council that he is President of Junior
Babe Ruth. He referenced previous considerations of what was termed a Kid Tax,
something that was not ultimately approved. Beingin the construction business, Mr.
Wheeler indicated it may be more expensive to maintain a pool than ballfields, but he
felt it would be a shame to take facilities away from the kids. Mr. Wheeler felt the City
should be looking at giving the kids more to do with more facilities, as there is a need
for additional ballfields. He asked the Council to remember that the youth are the
backbone of the area, and he reminded the Council that great things happen in the
community, and the Council should view the whole picture.
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Presentation from Port Kelli Hoine, a High School Freshman, offered her perspective as a swimmer. She
Angeles Swim Club shared with the Council the difficulties and frustrations being experienced in the pool
Regarding Proposed in terms of crowded conditions and the reducedlevel of training because the yardage
Contract (Cont'd) can't be attained.
Diane Holth approached the podium, informing the Council that her children grew up
at the pool. She felt swimming is a wonderful enhancement to other sports, that it is
good for cross training, and that it fosters good organization and better habits on the
part of the youth. She felt that ultimately the kids become better students and serve as
better members of the communitybecause of the discipline associated with swimming.
Ms. Holth indicated she is a swimming official, volunteering her time in support of the
swimming activities.
Public Works & Utilities Director Cutler understood there was a great need for a new
pool in the community, and he recognized there is a great value to the Swhn Club in
providing alternative recreation for the youth of the community. However, he felt it
difficult to negotiate a contract in a public forum, especially because he thought
negotiations were going well. Further, he indicated there is a process which must be
followed in contract negotiations, as he would not have the final decision-making
authority. He had planned to bring the results of the negotiations back to the oversight
committee before proceeding. Director Cutler indicated there had been no fee
increases in the last year, just a reduction in space utilized at the pool by virtue of the
City's requirement to provide a safe environment, to include the training of lifeguards
for certification purposes. Director Cutler referenced the list of issues that had been
identified as either resolved or pending, and he was feeling that many discussions had
been taken out of context. He added that the City has a large expense in maintaining
the pool, something that is paid by the taxpayers through the Budget in the form of a
subsidy, which explains why the issue is being addressed.
Councilmember Braun, because of discussions under way to constt'uct a new pool
facility, felt it would be advantageous to defer any changes to the Swim Club's
arrangements pending the opening of the new pool. He felt that a larger pool would
better accommodate the needs of the Swim Club, and he asked that the Council
consider the deferral of the issue. Conncilmember Erickson spoke in support of having
the negotiating process continue, as the ultimate recommendation will be forwarded to
the Council for consideration. Conncilmember Munro, as a member of the Parks
Subcommittee, was of the opinion that users of the pool should make some sort of
payment. This issue came to the Council before and was directed to the Subcomrmttee,
who gave instruction to Director Cutler to continue negotiations for a fee stmcture~
Councilmember Munro agreed that part of the fee consideration could be comprised
for in-kind services, as there was no question as to the value of the Swim Club, but he
felt that some type of fee would be reasonable. He expressed the hope that staff and
the Swim Club could agree upon a reasonable structure. Mayor Headrick inquired as
to what would constitute reasonable, and Councilmember Munro felt that the fees
suggested would be reasonable and, for those unable to afford to fees, then in-kind
services could be provided.
Jim Hoine, a County resident and President of the Swim Club, inquired as to whether
the High School was paying a fee for the use of the pool. He was informed there is an
agreement between the School District and the City for the use of each other's facilities.
When asked if the in-kind services provided by the Swim Club were of any value,
Conncilmember Munro felt they were; however, but many of those services support the
Swim Club as opposed to the City. Mr. Hoine informed the Cotmcil that the biggest
issue to be resolved is the decrease in pool space allowed for the Swim Club. He felt
that, when not in use for other purposes or for stafftraining, the Club should be allowed
to use all of the swim lanes. Further, he felt that this issue was not appropriately being
resolved in negotiations, and that there should be a balance to the scheduling in order
to meet everyone's needs. He suggested there be alternative hmes selected for staff
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Presentation from Port training in Lane 6.
Angeles Swim Club
Regarding Proposed Councilmember Erickson observed that it appeared the issue was specifically related
Contract (Cont'd) to the use of Lane 6 and the dive tank; however, the Swim Club had agreed to pay the
fees. Mr. Hoine responded that the Club agreed to pay the fees only in the interest of
having access to all of the lanes. Further, he indicated the pool staffwonldn't allow the
use of Lane 6, even when training was not being conducted. Councilmember Munro
indicated it appeared Mr. Hoine was approaching the matter in a reasonable fashion,
and that some fees would be acceptable. He expressed the hope that the matter of
space availability could be worked out to everyone's satisfaction, and he urged
continuation of the discussions to that end. Councilmember Rogers acknowledged the
awkwardness of discussing these issues in this particular setting, and she encouraged
all concerned to return to the table to work out the details. Further, she noted that the
Swim Club has a tremendous value in the community. Mr. Hoine felt there hadn't been
enough movement, and the issues of the fees had not been resolved. He added that the
Club bad agreed to pay the fees only if their conditions were met.
Councilmember Williams felt that the core issue related to the availability of Lane 6,
and he suggested that the matter be remanded back to the subcomunttee and that the
participants continue to work toward resolution. He asked for flexibility on the use of
Lane 6. Mr. Hoine asked about the Council's opinion on a charge for the Swim Club
when other kids aren't charged to use City facilities. Councilmember Williams felt it
appropriate to have a comprehensive plan for all sports and, until that time, nothing
should be charged. Maynr Headdck indicated this is a policy issue, and negotiations
have been taking place on an issue of which the Council was unaware. He expressed
the opinion that, if the City charges the Swim Club, then everyone should be charged.
If the Swim Club pays a fee, then it could be expected that all youth activities pay a fee
as well. He supported having a comprehensive plan and, further, based on the recent
financial report of the City, he saw no need to institute a fee at all. Mayor Headrick
perceived that the Swim Club agreed to pay the fees out of desperation, and he
recommended that the matter be tabled pending a study related to all sports in the City.
If there is a need for an adjustment, then that issue could be addressed. Councilmember
Munro indicated that the Parks Subcommittee had not considered fee increases for
other users, and he assured the Council that no Kid Tax was on the radar screen. He
was hesitant to undertake a re-evaluation of all Parks fees, as he felt they were
acceptable at the current level.
Councilmember Braun moved to work on the issue, but to do nothing until a new
pool has been constructed. Councilmember Williams expressed a willingness to
second the motion, if it could be amended to maintain the status quo to this past
October on fees and pool use. Councilmember Williams, therefore, seconded the
motion. Councilmember Erickson felt that the matter of pool usage should be
discussed with staff, and she felt that staffhad perhaps received inconsistent direction
from various individuals. Councilmember Munro asked that the Council be reminded
that the Parks, Recreation & Beautification Commission had voted on the issue and
supported a fee structure for the pool use. Discussion ensued with Director Cutler
providing additional clarification conceming his involvement since January, as well as
clarification concerning requirements for lifeguard training. Councilmember Williams
then proposed that last year's contract be extended to the end of August in the form of
a one-year renewal under the old terms during which time thematter could be further
considered. Councilmember Williams formalized his suggestion as an amendment
to the motion. Director Cutler asked that the Council give him until the Council
meeting this next week to provide further information. Therefore, all prior motions,
seconds, and amendments were withdrawn by the makers; and Councilmember
Williams moved to table the matter to the City Council meeting of April 19, 2005.
Councilmember Rogers seconded the motion. Director Cutler clarified that his focus
would be placed on the scheduling aspect. Avote was taken on the motion, which
carried unanimously.
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Continued Discussion 4. Continued Discussion Regarding City's 2005 Work Plan:
Regarding City's 2005
Work Plan Discussion on the 2005 Work Plan was deferred to a future Council meeting.
Consideration of Water 5. Consideration of Water Service Agreement:
Service Agreement
Consideration of the Water Service Agreement was deferred to a future Council
meeting.
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 8:15 p.m.
Richard A. H-eadrick, Mayor Becky J. Upt~it~lerk ! -
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