HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 12/13/1988I CALL TO ORDER
II ROLL CALL
Members Absent: None.
Staff Present:
III VI SUSPENDED
VII LEGISLATION
CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Special Budget Meeting
Port Angeles, Washington
December 13, 1988
Mayor McPhee called the special meeting of the City Council to order at 7:03
P.M.
Members Present: Mayor McPhee, Councilmen Gabriel, Hallett, Hordyk,
Lemon, Sargent, Stamon.
Manager Flodstrom, Attorney Knutson, Clerk Maike, D.
Wolfe, R. Orton, J. Pittis, P. Carr, L. Glenn, M.
Cleland, S. Brodhun, T. Smith.
Public Present: R. Gruver, C. Cervinski, D. Gearey, L. Beil, J.
Didrickson, C. Braun, V. Bingham, P. Downie.
1. Consideration of Councilmember Apvointments to Human Services Advisory
Boards 1989
Councilman Sargent suggested the Council consider using a rotation schedule
of the Committees on which the Council are members, which would allow for
Councilmembers to have a better perspective of the issues and programs.
Councilman Hallett echoed Councilman Sargent's sentiments.
Following further discussion, Councilman Sargent moved to table the matter
until the December 20, 1988, City Council meeting. Councilman Lemon
seconded and the motion carried.
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Councilman Gabriel requested a schedule of the committees, the times and
dates they met, as he would like to attend more of them.
Councilman Lemon also requested a full list of the times and schedules of
all the City related committees prior to making any decision, as he felt the
membership of these committees should be on a voluntary basis.
2. Consideration of Financial Support for Recent Thanksgiving Day
Celebration
Councilman Stamon posed a question to Attorney Knutson regarding the
legality of funding the request after the fact, if this would cause a
problem. Attorney Knutson stated yes. The problem is agreeing to pay for
something when the City legally did not have to pay. This would be
considered the same as a gift, which is prohibited under Article VIII,
Section 7, of the State Constitution. However, if there had been a
previous commitment by the City to pay for the items, then that would raise
a different issue. Whether the payment would be from the Hotel /Motel Tax
Funds or whether the City could sponsor the event and pay it from the
General Fund. Without the legal obligation to pay prior to the celebra-
tion, it was Attorney Knutson's opinion that it would be illegal to pay them
after the fact, unless there were some items which could be characterized as
City related, such as the refreshments provided at the Senior Center.
Councilman Stamon asked Manager Flodstrom what was the approximate cost for
providing refreshments at the Senior Center. Manager Flodstrom stated he
believed it was under $50, and the only commitment made by the City was to
pick up the cost of the refreshments at the Senior Center.
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Councilman Hallett asked whether the Council had funding request guidelines
for organizations such as this. Manager Flodstrom stated yes. Councilman
Hallett suggested in the future this organization, or any other, could
follow the guidelines, which would allow the Council to entertain the
request with enough information prior to the event to give it fair and due
consideration.
Councilman Hallett moved, in light of the discussions held prior to the
event, that the Council remit up to $50 to cover the cost of food and
beverages served at the Senior Center. Councilman Stamon seconded and the
motion carried.
3. Further Consideration of 1989/90 Preliminary BudEet and Tentative
BudEet Amounts Yet to be Set
Planning Department
Councilman Lemon moved that Council increase the Administrative Assistant
position to full time; allocate $20,000 for professional services in 1989;
increase Line Item 4150, Other Professional Services, by $300. Councilman
Sargent seconded.
After some discussion, Councilman Stamon offered an amendment to increase
Line Item 4960, Printing and Binding, from $700 to $1,000; increase Line
Item 4310, Travel and Subsistence, by $500; and add the part -time com-
pliance technician funding amount of $13,400. Councilman Hallett seconded.
Councilman Sargent was not in agreement with the issue of the part -time
compliance technician, as she felt it may be more appropriate to come back
to that item at a later date.
Councilman Gabriel also was opposed to the part -time compliance technician.
Following discussion, the question was called and the amendment failed,
with Councilmen Stamon, Hallett, and Hordyk voting "Aye
Councilman Stamon offered an amendment to add $500 to Travel and Subsis-
tence, and to restore the Printing to $1,000. Councilman Hallett seconded.
Following discussion, the question was called and the amendment carried,
with Councilmen Lemon, Hordyk, and Mayor McPhee voting "No
Councilman Hallett offered an amendment to the motion that Council, on or
before the final meeting in April, 1989, revisit the issue, review the
Planning Department's budget and consider the budget as a whole, and any
possible adjustments. Councilman Sargent seconded. On call for the
question, the amendment carried.
On cal for the main motion, the amended motion carried unanimously.
Port Angeles Light Opera Association
Councilman Sargent moved the Council support PALOA.in the funding amount of
$2,000. Councilman Lemon seconded.
Councilman Sargent stated she felt the Port Angeles Light Opera Association
is viable as a tourist attraction.
Councilman Hallett asked Councilman Sargent if her reason for making the
motion was based on the merits of the organization.
Councilman Sargent stated yes.
On call for the question, the motion carried unanimously.
Clallam County Museum
Councilman Hallett moved the Museum be funded at the original request of
$10,000. Councilman Stamon seconded.
Following some discussion, the question was called and the motion carried
unanimously.
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Tourism /Convention Association of Clallam County
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Councilman Stamon moved the Council fund the Tourism /Convention Association
of Clallam County in the amount of $22,239; and further that the Council
invite the Executive Director of the organization to come before the Council
in July, 1989, and petition at that time for support for the remainder of
the budget request. Councilman Hallett seconded.
Councilman Stamon, in speaking to her motion, stated there needs to be
support of TCACC's on -going projects. She submitted to Council the budget
of TCACC with some figures which she had revised. She also felt it was
important that Council remember the $35,000 request was a significant
reduction from the initial request of approximately $60,000. She felt some
of the reasons the Council should support the funding request were a
petition Council had received at the December 6th City Council meeting with
approximately 123 signatures urging the Council's support, as well as other
letters received. She believed there is broad -based support in the County
for the organization.
Councilman Lemon stated he was in support of the original motion to not fund
the TCACC. His first and foremost concern was with the use of the Hotel/
Motel Tax in accordance with the RCWs. The tax is allocated for the
construction or funding of convention centers, art centers, and stadiums.
Second, the advertising, publicizing, or otherwise distributing information
for the purpose of attracting visitors and encouraging tourism expansion
when a City has imposed such tax.
Councilman Sargent stated she felt the size of conventions the City of Port
can accommodate are brought here by local groups and service
organizations. She expressed her concern in the top -heavy administration of
TCACC, and further that there has been no attempt made to revise the budget
since the original request was made to the Council.
Councilman Hallett stated whenever looking at an organization whose primary
job is marketing, you must recognize the fact that it is a labor intensive
activity. Therefore, more costs go to labor than to operation.
Following further discussion, the question was called and the motion failed,
with Councilmen Hallett and Stamon voting "Aye
Councilman Sargent moved to fund TCACC in the amount of $11,250. Councilman
Gabriel seconded, contingent upon the return of a summary of how the money
is to be spent, within two weeks.
Councilman Lemon offered an amendment that total funding be off season,
regional advertising be subject to the approval of the Council; a new budget
realizing the proposed revenue and expenditures, excluding miscellaneous
fund- raisers, with explanations; a satisfactory audit done by a CPA chosen
by the City Council over the past two years; that the moneys granted were
spent in accordance with the budget presentation at the time moneys were
granted; TCACC would adhere to the by -laws of the organization and actions
would be governed by the Board; and of that Board, three representatives be
from Port Angeles, two from Sequim, and two from -the West End. Councilman
Hordyk seconded.
After discussion of the amendment, the question was called and the amendment
failed.
Councilman Hallett requested to ask Erl Hansen, Director of the Chamber of
Commerce, a question regarding the main motion.
Councilman Hordyk stated he felt Council should vote on the motion prior to
asking questions, and he objected to the questioning of Mr. Hansen.
Councilman Hallett appealed to the Council to overrule the Mayor's decision
to not allow the question to be asked.
Mayor McPhee stated the question is, does the Council agree with Councilman
Hallett and is it appropriate for him to ask questions at this time.
The Chair was overruled with Councilmen Hordyk, Lemon, and Mayor McPhee
voting "No
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Councilman Hallett asked Mr. Hansen if it was correct that the Chamber's
position, as it pertains to TCACC's request, is that the Chamber supports
the TCACC and supported their original budget request.
Councilmen Lemon, Gabriel, Hordyk, Sargent and Mayor McPhee were opposed to
the question.
Following further discussion, the question was called and the motion failed,
with Councilmen Stamon, Sargent, and Gabriel voting "Aye
Councilman Lemon moved that no funding be allocated to TCACC. Councilman
Hordyk seconded and the motion failed, with Councilmen Lemon, Hordyk, and
Mayor McPhee voting "Aye
Councilman Hallett moved the Council approve funding of TCACC in the amount
of $11,250; to return to the Council with a revised budget at the December
20th City Council meeting, showing how the moneys have been allocated.
Councilman Stamon seconded.
Councilman Stamon offered a friendly amendment asking the TCACC to return to
Council with the information requested from the Port when it is available.
Councilman Hallett concurred.
Councilman Lemon, as a point of order, stated this was not a motion to
reconsider.
Mayor McPhee ruled against the motion as reconsideration.
Councilman Hallett asked Attorney Knutson about the ruling. Attorney
Knutson stated Council could make a new motion that is different from the
motion that was defeated. If, however, the Council wished to reconsider
the motion, then it would technically be done in two steps: One as a motion
to reconsider and then to make a new motion which would either be the same
or slightly different than the motion that was made.
Councilman Hallett stated in Attorney's Knutson observation, was the Council
complying? Attorney Knutson stated they are not complying with the
technical way to do a motion to reconsider. However, what they are now
doing is a new motion, which is technically proper under Robert's Rules.
Mayor McPhee disagreed with Attorney Knutson and therefore the Council
would need to vote on the matter.
Following a lengthy discussion of the motion, the question was called and
the motion failed, with Councilmen Gabriel, Hordyk, Lemon, and Mayor McPhee
voting "No
Councilman Hordyk moved the Council authorize a $1,000 payment to the
Peninsula Tourism Council Region 8. Councilman Lemon seconded.
Following discussion, the question was called and the motion carried, with
Councilmen Hallett and Stamon voting "No
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Councilman Stamon moved to fund the Tourism and Convention Association of
Clallam County at $11,250, with the understanding that prior to any
allocation of those funds, they provide Council with a budget which defines
where those funds will be spent and further provide Council with a new
budget that takes into consideration the reduction in their funding level,
and also has information from the Port as to their contribution when it is
available; also with the understanding that the Council will receive the
information in the same manner as is done with the extra allocation funds to
the Chamber. Councilman Sargent seconded.
Mayor McPhee stated the Council has heard from members of the organization
who have dissatisfaction with their own Board and the way the money has been
spent.
Councilman Stamon rose to a point of order, stating that Council has dis-
cussed this and she believed this motion could possibly find some agreement
on the issue and the points the Mayor is making have already been con-
sidered.
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Councilman Sargent called for the question.
Mayor McPhee called for a vote on calling for the question. Councilmen
Hallett, Stamon, Sargent and Gabriel voted "Aye" to calling for the
question. The question was called and the motion carried with Councilmen
Hordyk, Lemon, and Mayor McPhee voting "No
Port Angeles Symphony
Councilman Sargent moved to fund $2,000 to support the Port Angeles
Symphony, on the condition that the Symphony provide a free concert for the
public on a holiday week -end. Councilman Gabriel seconded.
Following discussion, the question was called and the motion failed with
Councilmen Sargent and Hordyk voting "Aye
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Councilman Lemon moved that Council concur with the original funding level
of $5,000 to the Symphony, subject to one free concert during the summer,
and if the Symphony is not charged with the rent increase, that the City be
reimbursed. Councilman Gabriel seconded.
Councilman Hallett stated he did not feel it was appropriate for Council to
provide expenses to cover rent.
Councilman Sargent stated the organization is not a tourist attraction and
opposed providing funds for rent.
The question was called and the motion carried, with Councilmen Sargent,
Stamon, and Hallett voting "No
Councilman Sargent moved to authorize funding $1,500 to the Centennial
Committee for 1989. Councilman Stamon seconded and the motion carried
unanimously.
Council discussed at length the recycling issue.
Councilman Stamon proposed setting aside $20,000, not to be expended without
prior Council approval, but simply as an allocation within the Solid Waste
budget to build a fund for the City's waste reduction and recycling
programs. She then moved that the Council set aside $20,000 in the Solid
Waste budget and ear -mark it as a beginning fund. Councilman Sargent
seconded.
Manager Flodstrom, Council and staff discussed the matter.
Following discussion, Councilman Stamon offered a change to the motion,
based upon the information provided. She moved to direct the City Manager
to include within the budget narrative a discussion on where the City is
with the matter of recycling, and expand upon the brief comments made so
there is recognition that the City is fully intending to proceed with the
recycling issue and funding of those activities, as they are identified, and
at the proper time. Councilman Sargent concurred.
On call for the question, the motion carried unanimously.
BREAK
Mayor McPhee recessed the meeting at 9:20 P.M. for a 10- minute break.
Councilman Hordyk had left the meeting at 9:20, due to illness.
Councilman Hallett moved to add 5% to the Human Services request.
Councilman Stamon seconded.
Following lengthy discussion, the question was called and the motion failed,
with Councilmen Gabriel, Lemon, and Mayor McPhee voting "No
IX ADJOURNMENT
Councilman Lemon moved for adjournment. Councilman Sargent seconded.
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Councilman Stamon stated the process now is that the Council will receive a
budget ordinance which contains all the changes the Council has made and
that will be acted upon at the December 20th City Council meeting.
On call for the question, the motion carried, with Councilman Hallett
voting "No
The meeting adjourned at 9:43 P.M.
Clerk
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