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City Council Special Meeting
in Joint Session with the
Lodging Tax Advisory Committee
and the
Downtown Forward Executive Committee
Port Angeles, Washington
December 17, 2001
CALL TO ORDER - The special meeting of the City Council, the Lodging Tax Advisory Committee, and the
SPECIAL MEETING: Downtown Forward Executive Committee was opened at 7:30 a.m., by Councilman
Campbell, Chair of the Conference Center Review Committee.
ROLL CALL: Members Present: Councilmembers Campbell, McKeown, Wiggins, and
Williams.
Members Absent: Mayor Doyle, and Councilmembers Erickson and Hulett.
Lodging Tax Advisory Zoe Bayton, John Brewer, Carol Griffith, Jim Haguewood,
Committee Members: Bob Harbick, Jack Harmon, Steve Oliver, and Bill Rinehart.
Downtown Forward Leonard Beil, Mike Chapman, Don Corson, Dan DiGuilio,
Executive Committee Eileen Knight, Karen McCormick, John McCullough, Joe
Members: Melton, Vicci Rudin, and Brooke Taylor.
Staff Present: Manager Quinn, Attorney Knutson, Clerk Upton, T. Smith,
G. Cutler, and P. Rasler.
Public Present: Aria Holzschuh, Michael Leuhers, Russ Veenema, Mary &
Roy Gotham, Jan Harbick, Allan Bentley, Randal Ehm,
Laurie Szczepczynski, Martha Hurd, and Pete Schroeder.
Recommendation of Recommendation of Conference Center Review Committee: Tim Smith made opening
Conference Center Review remarks, noting that the purpose of this meeting was for the Conference Center Review
Committee Committee to share its recommendation with the members of the Lodging Tax Advisory
Committee and the Downtown Forward Executive Committee. He reviewed the
background of the project thus far, summarizing the 2001 Conference Center efforts,
to include the City/Port agreement for marketing the Oak Street property and the City's
issuance of an RFP for a Conference Center. Two proposals were submitted, one by
Ehm Architecture (Oak Street) and the other by Ravenhurst Development (Landing).
Both proposals were thoroughly reviewed by the Conference Center Review
Committee, which was comprised of Councilman Orville Campbell, Jim Haguewood,
Bob Harbick, John Brewer, Steve Oliver, Port staff members Dave Hagiwara and Pat
Deja, DNR staff member Martha Hurd, and City staff members Mike Quinn, Tim
Smith, and Craig Knutson.
Mr. Smith continued by reviewing the joint meeting between the City Council and the
Port of Port Angeles Commissioners, after which the proposals were forwarded to the
review committee for analysis. The review committee met on several occasions, and
this meeting was then scheduled to hear its recommendation. Mr. Smith reviewed the
evaluation criteria used by the committee: compliance with facilities requirements,
compliance with operations requirements, return on public investment, likelihood for
achieving long term financial success, and compliance with City/community vision for
downtown development.
It is envisioned that the Lodging Tax Advisory Committee and the Downtown Forward
Executive Committee will hold meetings at some future date to formulate
recommendations to be forwarded to the City Council in January. Subsequently, the
City Council will forward a recommendation to the Port of Port Angeles and the
Department of Natural Resources. The process will then enter the "due diligence"
phase, and negotiations will commence.
Councilman Campbell advised those present that the Conference Center Review
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Recommendation of Committee members had unanimously recommended that the proposal from Ehm
Conference Center Review Architecture go forward in the process. Councilman Campbell then proceeded to
Committee (Cont'd) review in detail how this proposal met the evaluation criteria, as opposed to the proposal
submitted for the Landing Mall:
Oak Street Compliance with Facilities Program Requirements:
vt Fully meets or exceeds location and facility requirements as outlined in RFP
vt New hotel with conferencing facilities and restaurant would be highly
competitive in conferencing market
vt Fits with community's general vision for development of Oak Street site
vt Accommodates Waterfront Trail, public access to waterfront area and Estuary,
adds parking
vt Design proposal suggests a great deal of flexibility subject to addition of
overall costs
vt Some question re. quality of final concept and design, medium vs. higher end
quality hotel
LandingCompliance with Facilities Program Requirements:
Improves an under-utilized facility
vt Lack of physical connection to hotel a minus in securing conference market
Oak Street Compliance with Operations Program Requirements:
vt Provides for an all "private sector" operating and marketing management team
as opposed to public resources involvement
vt Provides marketing leverage via national/worldwide marketing connection
(Six Continent Hotels)
vt Stated interest in PA unit to be flagship product that may launch replication of
new chain of conference center hotels
vt Some concern that ROI projects 13% return, when 15% is preferred
vt Some concern that marketing specifics are lacking
LandingCompliance with Operations Program Requirements:
Project occurs in designated area as requested in RFP
Requires additional public sector funding of $150K/yr. for operations and
marketing in addition to the $100K/yr. of committed lodging tax funds
Concern for fair access to catering by Landing restauranteurs
Oak Street Return on Public Investment:
Although some cost/budget items are not fully defined, budget suggests some
"slack" room capable of absorbing other potential costs
Proposal seeks no more than $100K annual lodging tax commitment subject
to staying within proposed budget
Considerably more leverage of public investment compared to other proposal
under consideration
Good potential for increasing lodging tax revenues by raising average annual
room rate due to new construction of a waterfront hotel
Concern over lack of response strategy in the event of cost overruns
Landing Return on Public Investment:
Loss of some existing public parking a concern
Proposed building conference facility without hotel, proposes public operation
involving ongoing public financial commitment
Oak Street Likelihood for Achieving Long-Term Financial Success:
Development would be very competitive with similar conferencing facilities
Preliminary cost/revenue information is favorable - a more detailed look at this
in next phase is required
Long-Term ownership and management commitment looks strong, but it is
realized these kinds of facilities are always subject to sale
Landing Likelihood for Achieving Long-Term Financial Success:
The developer lacks any commitment to conference center management or
marketing
Does put site improvements on tax rolls
Marginal leveraging of public financial investment compared to competing
Oak Street site proposal
Ongoing City contribution would need to be approximately $250K annually
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Recommendation of Oak Street Compliance with City/Community Vision for Downtown Development:
Conference Center Review er Proposal is exact match of Downtown Forward Plan vision of development on
Committee (Cont'd) Oak Street site
er Anchors west end of downtown waterfront and will promote more potential
in-fill development along waterfront and west side of downtown
er Builder willing to consider further public input on final design
er Will attract more people to downtown
er Moderately high-end development
Landing Compliance with City/Community Vision for Downtown Development:
et Fresh and attractive vision for new Landing, but this extent of Landing
remodel has not been an identified vision in existing Downtown Forward Plan
er Much less leveraging of public financial commitment compared to competing
proposal for Oak Street site
Discussion followed, and John McCullough acknowledged the hard work of the review
committee. He stressed that marketing is critical to the success of the conference center
effort. Jim Haguewood agreed, noting that the committee identified this matter as a key
issue, something that will be addressed in the next phase of the process. Bob Harbick
also agreed, indicating there will be additional marketing money brought in by the hotel
chain to enhance the local marketing efforts.
Carol Griffith sought clarification regarding a stated increase in lodging tax and,
additionally, if the proposed hotel were to be sold what the impact might be on the
City's $100K annual commitment. Councilman Campbell responded it was not
intended to imply there would be an increase in the lodging tax rate but, rather, the
development would raise the level of lodging tax revenues generated. Jim Haguewood
noted that the proposal would add 150 new rooms and may influence an increase in the
average daily rate within the City. Steve Oliver expanded on the City's financial
commitment, noting the $100K is a public investment, and the City will have to protect
the City's interests via lease and lease back arrangements.
Councilman Wiggins felt it would be helpful for those present to understand Ehm's
track record in the past. Mr. Smith indicated a very thorough review had been
undertaken on Ehm, to include a Dunn and Bradstreet report, as well as a thorough
credit check. However, Mr. Smith also noted that Ehm's venture into the lodging
industry would be a new experience and that Ehm did not have a proven track record
in this particular field.
Michael Leuhers, Red Lion Hotel, voiced his appreciation for efforts to increase tourism
in the area. He was uncertain as to the accuracy of the statement concerning lack of
marketing and operational management on the part of the Landing proposal. It was his
intention that the Red Lion would partner in this endeavor on the Landing proposal.
Councilman Campbell indicated it was the review committee's understanding that
Ravenhurst would have a landlord/tenant relationship, and that the City would need to
create an organization for that purpose. The City would, therefore, sustain the risk in
this regard. Mr. Smith offered clarification regarding the proposed partnership between
Ravenhurst and the Red Lion, a matter that has been impacted by the sale of the Red
Lion chain. Although there is some indication that the partnership can still come
together, the review process for the RFPs could not be delayed. Attorney Knutson had
the impression that Ravenhurst's position on marketing might end up with some
marketing assistance from the Red Lion, but that the City would still be responsible for
the operation, which would result in a need for an additional $15OK.
Mr. Leuhers felt the competition may have some negative results in the community as
relates to others in the lodging industry. He asked for clarification on the proposed
rates, which he thought had been understated in previous discussions. Councilman
Campbell felt that, if the project harms more local business than is created by the
project, then further review is appropriate. However, the basic premise is that the
conference center will generally enhance most local businesses. Bob Harbick noted the
importance of having hotel beds available at the conference center, as this is a key
priority by user groups.
Joe Melton indicated he would like to see the process move forward; however, he
stressed the importance of doing so with great caution. Pete Schroeder inquired as to
what percentage of the land would be covered by the hotel and the parking lot. Mr.
Smith responded there would be approximately one-third for landscaping and the
Waterfront Trail, one-third for parking, and one-third for the hotel/conference center.
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Recommendation of Steve Oliver indicated discussions have been held concerning the footprint of the
Conference Center Review project, the possible amenities, and the like. It was mentioned that the due diligence
Committee (Cont'd) phase of this effort has been targeted for completion approximately 45 days after
Council approval of the recommendation.
Further discussion, with clarification, was held on the matter of Ehm's proposal
specifically relating to marketing and management with the added benefit of the City's
financial commitment. Attorney Knutson indicated that Ehm would use the City
funding for part of the construction, but the City would have a long-term lease with
Ehm. All of these arrangement would be well documented in a lease agreement.
Brooke Taylor felt it was unclear as to the ownership of the underlying land, and Steve
Oliver responded there is contemplation for a long-term lease of the land from the Port
and the DNR. Responding to a question concerning DNR's timely responsiveness to
the project, Martha Hurd assured the group she has been working with the Olympia
office and was comfortable there would be accommodation to meet the group's goals
and deadlines.
Joe Melton, citing the Landing Mall's previous financial experiences, queried as to how
a default might be handled and what kind of interest might the City maintain in the
property. Mr. Smith indicated that, through the due diligence process, this type of issue
will be addressed. He felt that, if the project's viability were to be placed in question,
the City would likely withhold any further payments until the operation were to resume.
Bill Rinehart posed the question as to who is responsible for lease costs, and Steve
Oliver responded the f'mal structure has yet to be determined but there would be some
parameters placed on the City's funding commitment. Further, Steve indicated there
would likely be created a leasehold interest that would survive bankruptcy and
foreclosure. Mr. Smith added that Ehm might well save on project costs if the land is
leased as opposed to the original plan for a land purchase. The pro forma submitted by
Ehm suggests a greater value for the land than was established in the resulting appraisal.
Further discussion ensued on lease versus purchase of the property and what might be
expected in terms of a lease duration.
Mr. Smith reiterated the upcoming process in that the two committees will meet to
formulate their recommendations to be forwarded to the City Council, hopefully at one
of the January meetings. Following an agreement by the City Council as to its
recommendation, the matter will then proceed to the Port and DNR for consideration.
It is hoped that, by the end of February, the City will know how it will be proceeding
for a conference center.
At the conclusion of this meeting, the two committees asked to reconvene in separate
rooms to set dates for their next meetings.
ADJOURNMENT: This portion of the meeting was adjourned at 8:25 a.m.
Reconvene Lodging Tax The meeting of the Lodging Tax Advisory Committee reconvened at approximately
Advisory Committee 8:30 a.m. After preliminary discussion, there was consensus that the Lodging Tax
Meeting Advisory Committee was in a position to make a recommendation at this time.
Therefore, Jack Harmon moved to accept the recommendation of the Conference
Center Review Committee and forward the recommendation to the City Council.
The motion was seconded by Zoe Bayton and carried unanimously. The Lodging
Tax Advisory Committee meeting then adjourned at approximately 8:40 a.m.
Reconvene Downtown The meeting of the Downtown Forward Executive Committee reconvened at
Forward Executive approximately 8:30 a.m. After due deliberation, the members agreed to meet on
Committee Meeting January 11,2002, at 7:30 a.m., to formulate a recommendation on the conference center
proposal. The meeting of the Downtown Forward Executive Committee then adjourned
at approximately 8:40 a.m.
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