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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 03/03/1953 '" .~~ '. Ii -' .-e . Minutes of the regular meeting of the City of Port Angeles Planning Commission, March 3rd, 1953. Members present were Lamoureux, Reiners, Gort, Rodda, Hampton and Strange. Present also were Mayor Smith and City Engineer Ahlvers. Minutes of the meeting of February jrd. 1953 were read and approved. The chairman declared the meeting opened for general discussion and suggested the most important topic before us at this time was the enlarged improvement district, consisting of the Tumwater Road, paving of' Marine Drive and the C1 ty' s portion of the Front Street fill, which our Planning Commission was going to propose to the City Council at their meeting on Thursday next. The chairman reported to the CommisSion of his visit with Mr. Thorgrimson with relation to the legal procedure in approaching an enlarged improvement district and gave a complete resume of Mr. Thorgrimson's suggestions on the proper manner that the project be approached. A general discussion of the entire project followed. Each member ofrering various suggestions and it was generally agreed that all the members of the Planning Commission be present at a meeting of the City Council on Thursday next in order that our group may advise with them and offer our support to expedite the project as rapidly as possible. The only change suggested in the project as we have discussed it so far was the terminus of the Marine Drive paving be extended from the point near the Crown Zellerbach garages to a point near the easterly side of their "oil tank farm~ This suggestion."was adopted. No further business appearing, meeting was adjourned at 9:jO P.M. Respectfully submitted, pc: ;J}7) ~ cc to G. S. Vergeer ~ "'" tIIa Minutos of the regular mgeting of the City of Port Angeles Planning Commission, March 3rd, 1953. Members prosent were Lamoureux, Hoiners, Gort, ROdda, Hampton and Strange. Present al so were ~,laY'or 8mi th and C1 tJ Enginoer Ahlvers. Minut~n of the meeting of February 3rd, 1953 wore road and approved. The chairman declared the meettng opened for general discussion and sugges tad ttlO mOB t important topic before us at this time was the enlarged improvement district, consisting of tho Tumwater Road, paving or Marine Drive and the City's portion of the Front Street fill, which our Planning Commission was going to propose to the City Council at their moeting on Thursday next. The chairman reported to the Commission of his visit with Mr. Thorgrimson with relation to the lagal pronedure in approaching an enlarged improvement district and gave n co~~lete resume of Mr. Tnorgrimson's suggoCltions on the prop or manner that the projoct be approached. . A general discussion of the entire project followed. Each memher offerIng various suggestions and it was generally agreed that all "the members of the Planning Commission be prosent at a m~3ting of the City Council on Thursday next in order that our group may advise wIth them and offer our support to expedite the project as rapidly as possible. The only chango Bug ested in tho projoct as we have discussed it so far was the terminus of the Marine Drive paving be extended from the point near the Crown Zellerbach garages to a point near the oasterly side of their "oil tank: fl1rmt~ This s'-lg~es tion was adopted. No further business appe ring, meeting was adjourned at 9:30 P~M. Respectfully submitted, t.d/~ ------- .' cc to G. S. VergeeI' '" ~ February 19, 1953 .: Notes from conversation with Mr. Thorgrimaon with reference to proposed enlarged LID. Taken 1n order of their listings, Mr. Thorgrimson gave general approval to the enlarged LID program for items A, B, & 0, with, however, some mOd.ifications or suggestions as to procedure. Equal benefits for residence lots on these three projects would probably be pretty well recognized. Assessments for business establishments, however, should be surveyed at some length. Statement was made that "courts have heJ.d increase 01' ouslness due to improvement 01' street is not to be construed as special. bene!'i ts as !'ar as LID is concerned. .l::!;ven tho projects are not physically connected with each other, they may be included in one LID providing seperate costs are kept and assessment roll calculated accordingly. Refering to item ~Dn, namely the fill. to be done in conjunction with the Port District and Milwaukee Railroad, Mr. Thorgrimson says entity must remain with the City, they being responsible for completion of entire project in order to be included in an LID. They may, however, have agreement with other parties for payment of part of the cost. Je Wo difficulty should be experienced in setting up fixed amount for the Cities share of project "0" an d hOlding same until time for construction and, if ne~d be, closing assessment roll in the meantime. The only hazard being, shou~d costs not equal amount set aside and charged to the assessment roll, it would be necessary to refund to the property owners their portion of the overcharge. This of course would be quite some clerical undertaking. On item3 D, ~~ ~, Mr. Thorgrimson feels they may be included, however, the zoning of costs would have to be entirely different from other three projects as he feels we would experience considerable difficulty in showing equal benefit, especially as far as residential property is concerned. That is to say, according to him it would be practically impossible for us to show the same benefit to a man on 16th & "CR Streets as one at 5th & Peabody Streets when we are taking about item "n.D. Mr. Thorgrimson suggested that inasmuch as spreading assessments on an enlarged improvement district of this kind involves considerable technical. difl'iculties, it would be prudent on the part of the City to retain an engineer well versed in that procedure. He suggested the names of two men who have retired from active work, but are available for survey and consultation. Names suggested -- Mr. Ed Hughes and Mr. Ed Duffey. Betp men being well qualified for this type of work. .' . ' .. r' "I February 1~, 1~53 - ,otos from convcI'l:Iatlcm ,Jlti) ~r. !"lorgri"1st:n ~'''ith r .for tnce to ,roposed a ia ~ed LLD. l'll.{EHl in orner of tneir 1l :It..illf;s, Mr. fhorgrlmson' ~8.VA coner'.l approval to tne onlal'ged f"It' proi:;.t'9ffi. for It..PIS A, ~, ~ C, wlttl, 1H.'tIovor, SC'':'le '1J0c1U'!cetluns or sU.,Le tlGns os to proceduro. ,oun,l bo I~rlto for r691dence lots L'n the~,A threo proJocts .iOl,lld ~n'obaoly bn or1ety ,oIl racu ~nized. A"'ses'm;;!nt;j rOl' U,JSintlS3 o..tnt)ltsh.'Ilont~l, ~ :iovvr, should be surv lyed nt 3(,:nO .Lonl~th.. 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'. ..or6rlosLn Oi.JG ....'...ooJ tl1t1~ ~,:a. ~.1Ct1 aD D~1r ,"l'Alfl ~ n~ao'o 1ont" (..n a, enl ....;,HJ 1 ~,rovol:~:)nt d l ,t.:lc t of tala ' lnu 1-,'/ ~ J. v .. eflU lela 'uble tccnn\col Jift:c ~ltLw, lt iJould ~ ~a.....dent on t~e n..rt vi' tuo u1tJ tu 1'0 i;.il ,n W1 ODntnJO!' \1011 J1orsod I-A L.\U,- t>rt.eOd,lro. .Ii .JUC;' ..to..! t.l0 0Il'.:01' or t_JO ~n 11' lO .!OVO 1". tlred fI' 1 U rtlVI.. ,,{,(",t, but 01.0 uvnl1~'b16 for ourvuJ nnd c -uultot. n. jCl:"~'JO SJt;.o ,tod -- '.1~. J .U(;u'..o nod .... : j .......J.rruJ. otl'l'J.11 bo tn: cell "Uall tiod fur' ttll~J t7PO or vQrk. .; ,'" ... .II ..' 'I PLANNING COMMISSION PROPOSAL FOR ENLARGED IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT A. TUMWATER ROAD Grading from Marine Drive near Cedar Street to Lauridsen Boulevard between Tumwater Street and "An Street connecting with SSH #9-A at Boulevard and lie" Streets, also with proposed County Road connecting with PSH #9 (U.s. 101), .giving access to the City from west. B. Filling, grading, draining and paving Marine Drive from "AU Street to point near Crown Zellerbach garage near Second and nK" Streets. . c. - l,." City's share or expense ~illing area from Valley Street to Oak Street and from alley between Front and First Streets to Milwaukee Railroad trestle and extending Valley Creek Culvert. D. Concrete culvert on Peabody Creek for Fifth Street crosslng. E. Concrete culvert on White's Creek for Front Street crossing. F. Concrete culvert on White's Creek for Third Street crossing. r . HcaJ'Iuart"l"S Olympic National PlIl"k On The Straits Of Juan De fuca Shortest Route To British Columbia .~, ~.,-_., ..' y-;..r-:\. ,~ .. CITY OF PORT ANGELES "2nJ National City" PORT ANGELES, WASHINGTON Olli"e or TI.c PLANNING CO}\MISSION Planning Commission Proposal for Enlarged Improvement District A. TUI.{;/ATER ROAD Grading from Marine Drive near Cedar Street to Laul"ldsen Boulevard between Tumwater Street and "A" Street connecting with SSB #9-A at Boulevard and. "Cn Streets, also with proposed County Road connecting with PSH #9 (u.s. 101), giving access to City from West. B. .e Filling, grading, draining and paving Marine Drive from HAlf Street to point near Crown Zellerbach garage near Second and "K" Streets. c. City's share of expense filling area from Valley Street to Oak Street and trom alley between Front and First Streets to Milwaukee Railroad trestle and extending Valley Creek Culvert. D. Concrete culvert on peabody Creek for Fifth Street crossing. E. Concrete culvert on White's Creek for Front Street crossing. F. Conorete culvert on White's Creek for Third Street orossing. '. \ ....- - 7YldL..Py -n~L, A-~_*- ~ J"I"-' ~ ...... --I 4.::;i- ~ ....... /~ r ~ t, r- - 4 7 ~ ) .n -,- .;,t. "- i.w J9 t/- 7 .. 71)4 'E) J4 Frr--<-- f ~J 7 (, r Lj- . 'lH", z) [) 4r /}fJ~ o. ~ I r . - ---:rCAN ~L ) - r ~J ~.v( R,.ft h~ . f ~l . q II ~ HeaJquarter~ 0I)"IIlric Notional Park On The Straits or Juan De fuca S~orte~t Route To Briti~~ Colom1ia . CITY OF PORT ANGELES "2nd National Citv" " PORT ANGELES, WASHINGTON Office or The PLANNING COMMISSION Planning Commission Proposal for Enlarged Improvement District A. TU:,flATER ROAD Grading from Marine Drive near Cedar Street to Lauridsen Boulevard between Tumwater Street and "AIf Street connecting with SSE tf'7-A at Boulevard and "CtT Streets, also with proposed County Road connecting wit~ PSH #9 (U.S. 101), giving access to City from West. B. a Filling, grading, draining and paving Harine Drive from tfAn Street to point near crown Zellerbach garage near Second and uK" Streets. c. City's share of expense filling area from Valley Street to Oak Street anj from alley between Front and First Streets to ~ilwaukee Railroad trestle and extending Valley Creek Culvert. D. Concrete culvert on Peabody Creek for Fifth Street crossing. E. Concrete culvert on White's Creek for Front Street crossing. F. Concrete culvert en White1s Creek for Third Street cressing. ..