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WAS H I N G TON, U. S. A.
DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
321 East Fifth Street
September 24, 2003
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CALL TO ORDER
7 p.m.
n. ROLL CALL
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Regular meetings of August 27, 2003, and September 10,
2003
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IV. LONG RANGE PLANNING ITEM
Urban Design discussion
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COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC
VI. STAFF REPORTS
116 W. Albert, Port Angeles Suites
VII. REPORTS OF COMMISSION MEMBERS
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
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PLANNING COMMISSIONERS: Linda Nutter (Chair), Fred Hewins (Vice Chair), Chuck Schramm, Fred Norton, Bob Philpott, Len Rasmussen, Jack Pittis
PLANNING STAFF: Brad Collins, Director; Scott Johns, Associate Planner; Sue Roberds, Assistant Planner.
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MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION
Port Angeles, Washington 98362
September 24, 2003
7:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Members Present:
Fred Norton, Chuck Schramm, Leonard Rasmussen, Jack
Pittis, Linda Nutter
Members Excused:
Bob Philpott, Fred Hewins
Staff Present:
Brad Collins, Scott Johns
Public Present:
None
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Commissioner Norton moved to approve the minutes of the
August 27, 2003, meeting. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Nutter and passed 2-
o with Commissioners Schramm, Rasmussen, and Pittis abstaining due to their absence from
the meeting.
Commissioner Schramm moves to approve the minutes of the September 10, 2003,
meeting. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Pittis and passed 5 - O.
LONG RANGE PLANNING ITEM: Urban Design discussion
Communi ty Development Director Collins introduced the subj ect of Urban Design by stating
that the idea of instituting some form of urban design guidelines or review had been proposed by
the Planning Commission members and from some members ofthe public. He pointed out that the
initiative had not come from Planning Department staff. Several recent developments and the City
Council's interest in entryway corridor beautification emphasis has brought the idea of design review
to the forefront.
Director Collins said that he felt that the discussion on urban design would be a topic of
interest to the City Council and brought up the idea of a joint meeting with the Council. The Council
members responded that the Planning Commission should 'flesh out' the ideas at the Commission
level and then involve the Council.
Director Collins pointed out that Port Angeles has a good example of successful design
review in the downtown's Main Street Program. Although there is a large body of knowledge on
design review and several approaches to the issue, not everyone is supportive of design review. At
this time the Washington State Department of Community, Trade, and Economic Development is
offering an assistance program for communities that would like to become involved with
development of a design review program.
Commissioner Rasmussen stated that by discussing design review the Commission is seeking
a solution to an undefined problem. He went on to state that the Commission should decide upon
the goals for the City before seeking a solution such as design review and that before implementing
design review, the City should look at its existing tools such as the Comprehensive Plan and the
Zoning Code.
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Planning Commission Minutes
September 24, 2003
Page 2
Commissioner Pittis said that he had worked with ArIa Holzschuh of the Downtown
Association in their efforts associated with the Main Street Program. There is not a Ullifonn
acceptance of the program and there are various holes that are not completed. That program is a
work in progress. Commissioner Pittis then asked if the City Council has indicated that they felt
there is a problem that design review would provide a solution for.
Director Collins said that there are individuals on the Council that are concerned, however
their concern is with private space maintenance and appearance. Different levels of maintenance
leave some properties looking less than tidy. Vacant properties pose a particular problem with
maintenance, but some occupied properties are also poorly maintained.
Commissioner Pittis stated that because of the current economics he would be reluctant to
tell developers what a building should look like, especially if doing so would add to the cost of
development. He also stated that many people entering town made the assumption that they are
entering Port Angeles when they crossed the Morse Creek valley, but the Urban Growth Area is not
under the control of the City. Commissioner Pittis felt that the City should take some initiative to
improve the appearance of its own public spaces to set an example for others.
Commissioner Schramm agreed with Commissioner Pittis that the City should set a higher
standard for others to follow. He also stated that at some point the City must think of where the
community is going or it will end up living with what we currently have. The City will have to live
with the appearance ofthe Jack in the Box building for 25 years, because there is no vision of what
the City should look like and that the City Council's philosophy of encouraging all development is
a short sighted approach. Commissioner Schramm felt that this is a short sighted approach to
development.
Commissioner Norton stated that he does not support the idea of dictating to people what to
do and that there is already too much of that going on. He also felt that implementing design review
is premature.
Chair Nutter expressed disappointment that the other commissioners did not seem to support
the idea of design review. She pointed out that design review encompassed more than just building
design. Other elements include site design for defensible space, police access and lighting
requirements, landscape design, and pedestrian space.
Commissioner Rasmussen reiterated his position that design review should not be jumped
to as a solution until existing tools have been used to their fullest extent. He pointed out that design
review would not have any affect on the UGA because it is still within the County's jurisdiction.
The downtown area is doing a good job with its Main Street program. Some existing regulations
tend to limit what can be done to mititgate problems of appearance. Zero setbacks limit the amount
of landscaping that can soften building lines or reduce the visual impacts of blank walls or large
buildings. Existing old buildings can pose a problem of visual attractiveness. Commissioner Nutter
said that design review would not affect existing buildings.
Commissioner Schramm suggested that the Commission define design review. In defining
how Port Angeles views design review, the City could focus on issues that affect the community for
the long tenn.
Commissioner Pittis suggested eliminating the negative connotations associated with design
review and try to focus on community character. Ask the questions, What do we want to be?, What
are we? He also felt that the City must define where the entry to the City is. The proposed changes
to the pull-out view area east of Morse Creek is going to further the impression that the City begins
at Morse Creek and that the UGA is actually in the City.
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Planning Commission Minutes
September 24, 2003
Page 3
Commissioner Norton said that the idea of a theme or City character had been discussed in
the past and that no decision had been reached. The City has changed from a mill town or resource
town to something else. He also agreed that the appearance ofthe City needs to be improved, citing
the comments he made at a previous meeting regarding the comments he encountered in the
Colorado Springs newspaper. The commissioner then asked staff if the police are asked to review
projects. Director Collins indicated that it is not a usual practice but if a particular need is perceived
that they will be involved by request from the department. He cited lack of resources and the
perception that Port Angeles is a safe place for the lack of police involvement in project review.
Commissioner Norton felt that police involvement should be an integral part of project review.
Commissioner Schramm said that design review does not need to be tied to a specific theme.
Design review would provide some direction and consistency to the future development ofthe City
and that the City needs to start fonnulating what that direction should be as soon as possible.
Director Collins mentioned the DCTED assistance program and suggested that the Ci ty could
take advantage of that program to help fonnulate what that community character should be. He said
that often design review is seen as more regulation or dictating development actions. Some direction
could be determined through the use of tools like visual preference surveys which would help us
understand what the citizens want Port Angeles to look like.
Commissioner Pittis inquired whether the DCTED grant would cover more than just
commercial projects. He stated that all areas ofthe City should be evaluated and that if the City did
have a vision it could follow the vision and get to where they want to be.
Commissioner Rasmussen stated that the focus of attention at the present has been on the
entry ways, downtown and the 101 corridor, and that other areas of the City must be looked at as
well. He suggested that the City look at the local Economic Development Council's process which
has had a high degree of success.
By consensus the Planning Commission directed staff to follow-up on the State's assistance
program.
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC:
None.
STAFF REPORTS:
116 W. Albert, Port Angeles Suites
Director Collins told the Planning Commission that the City cannot enforce a variance for
a project ifthe project goes away. In the same vane, a developer cannot rely on a variance for anew
project that the variance is not approved for. At the present, the project has approval only for
apartments that meet parking requirements. No additional approvals will be issued until the alley
is paved and additional parking is provided.
Commissioner Norton asked staff what the process will be for approving additional parking.
Staff replied that parking is a conditional use in the CA zone and that if parking is proposed as a
stand alone use the issue will come before the Planning Commission for approval of a conditional
use permit.
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Planning Commission Minutes
September 24, 2003
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Commissioner Nutter asked why conditions are not recorded against the property title and,
if they are not recorded against the property title, is there another way new owners can be made
aware of conditions that had been applied to a site or project.
Director Collins stated that it has always been a problem, though our institutional memory
is currently very strong, and that staff has relied on the public to help monitor projects. It is his
feeling that recording conditions on the title will not be particularly helpful, however, the City's new
HTE computer program will help keep track of conditions. Collins further stated that staff will
research the suggestion with other City departments and report back to the Commission.
REPORTS OF COMMISSION MEMBERS:
Commissioner Nutter suggested alternate wording for the sign-in sheet used at public
hearings. She also announced a class on infiltration of stonnwater being offered later this fall.
ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting adjourned at 8:30 P.M.
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PREPARED BY: S. Johns