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AGENDA
PORT ANGELES PLANNING COMMISSION
321 East Fifth Street
Port Angeles, W A 98362
October 30, 1990
7:00 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
D. ROLL CALL
ill. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Meeting of October 10, 1990
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT - DEL HUR. INC.. Del Guzzi
Drive: Proposal to develop a planned residential development on property located
on Del Guzzi Drive, adjacent to Ennis Creek, between State Route 101 and
Lindberg Road. (This item is continued from the August 30, 1990, meeting.)
Public Hearing Procedure:
Spokesmen for the proponents and opponents will be given an opportunity to speak to the request. Information
submitted should be factual, relevant and not merely duplication of a previous presentation. A reasonable time (10
minutes) shall be allowed the spokesman; others shall be limited to short supporting remarks (5 minutes). Other
interested parties will be allowed to comment briefly (5 minutes each) or make inquiries. The Chairman may allow
additional public testimony if the issue warrants it. Brief rebuttal (5 minutes) for proponents and opponents heard
separately and consecutively. with presentation limited to their spokesman. Rebuttal shall be limited to factual
statements pertaining to previous testimony.
Planning Commission: Larry Leonard, Chair; Ray Grover, Vice..Qlair; Bill Anabel; Roger Calls; Jim Hulett; Bob Philpott.
Planning Staff: Brad Collins, Planning Director; Sue Roberds, Planning Office Specialist.
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v. COMMUNICATIONS FROM mE PUBLIC
VI. STAFF REPORTS
VD. REPORTS OF COMl\1ISSION MEMBERS
VID. ADJOURNMENT
NOTES: The Planning Commission will not, except at the discretion of the chairman, commence a new hearing
after 10 P.M
Project files and applicable City land use regulations may be reviewed prior to the public hearing in the Planning
Department. Copies of all material in the files are available at a cost of $.25 per page.
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MINUTES
Planning Commission
Port Angeles, Washington
Special Meeting
October 30, 1990
I.
CALL TO ORDER:
The meeting was called to order at 7:15 P.M., by Vice
Chairman Gruver.
II. ROLL CALL:
Members Present:
Ray Gruver, Roger Catts, Jim Hulett,
Bob Philpott, william Anabel and
Larry Leonard (arrived late). (One
Commission vacancy.)
Staff Present:
Brad Collins, Sue Roberds, Craig
Knutson, Gary Kenworthy and Bruce
Becker.
III.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Bob Philpott noted a correction in the Minutes of the
October 10, 1990, meeting. commissioner Hulett moved to
amend the Minutes of October 10, 1990, by correcting the
address of Linda Debord, as 1309 East Seventh Street
(page 7 ~ last paragraph). Bob Philpott seconded the
motion which passed unanimously.
IV. PUBLIC HEARING:
PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT - DEL HUR. INC.. Del
Guzzi Drive: Proposal to develop a planned residential
development on property located on del Guzzi Drive,
adjacent to Ennis Creek, between State Route 101 and
Lindberg Road (continued from August 30, 1990).
Mr. Collins explained the background of the site plan
presently proposed for review by the Planning Commission.
noting that the plan was submitted in response to items
of concern listed at the August 30, 1990, meeting of the
Planning Commission. Mr. Collins noted that there are
several options open to the Commission: (1) Act on one of
the plans as proposed, by either approving or
conditioning those plans with findings and conclusions to
support that action; (2) Deny the PRD by denial of both
submitted plans, citing findings and conclusions for the
action; (3) Provide direction to the applicant to modify
the present site plan and continue the item to the next
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available meeting of the Commission for consideration.
Jim Hulett questioned staff as to the construction of
retaining walls as noted by the Public Works Department
in the staff memorandum. Mr. Hulett said he thought the
Uniform Building Code dictated requirements for that
construction and would be considered in review of
building plans.
In response to questions from the Commission concerning
the number of playgrounds and location of parking areas
for PROs, Mr. Collins answered that there are three (3)
playgrounds proposed by the applicant rather than the two
(2) as noted in the staff report, and the parking
specifications are no different for PRDs than for other
developments; however, it is within the Planning
Commission's purview to review the proposal and determine
whether the parking is convenient to sites within the
PRD.
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[Larry Leonard joined the meeting at 7:30 P.M. and
assumed the Chair.]
Mr. Leonard apologized for his tardiness and briefly
reviewed the public hearing process,
Mr. Collins answered questions from the Commissioners
regarding lot acreages, fencing, space between buildings,
detention ponds and the number of units in both Plan A
(the original submittal) and Plan B (submitted October
23, 1990).
There being no further inquiries from the Commission,
Chairman Leonard opened the public hearing.
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Tom Goeltz, Davis, Wright, Tremaine, Seattle, Washington,
land use attorney for the proponent, was present. Mr.
Goel tz requested the Commission come to a decision at the
meeting as this was the fourth time the proposal has been
considered. He stated that Plan A is still the preferred
choice of the applicant; however, Plan B is an effort to
respond to the Commission's concerns expressed at the
August 30th meeting, and is less impactive on Ennis
Creek. The single-family housing east of the Creek has
been eliminated from the PRD and there will be no
development on Lot 2. The lot will either be dedicated to
the City in perpetuity, a homeowner's association, or
whatever entity the City sees best. Mr. Goeltz stated
that he hoped that was in keeping with the Planning
Commission's intent at the August 30, 1990, meeting.
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Ed Linardic, 1319 Dexter Avenue North, Seattle,
Washington, architect for the proposal, briefly responded
to some of the questions directed to staff prior to
opening of the public portion of the meeting. He noted
that the trail along Ennis Creek had been deleted; the
parking is as close as possible to those sites served;
fencing is as in Plan A, but can be extended along Del
Guzzi Drive if requested; the retaining walls will meet
the 150-foot setback required and the par course can be
routed to meander through the development if desired. An
open space definition is not contained in the Code;
therefore steep slopes are not specifically excluded from
being calculated as open space. He further stated that
the applicant is willing to try to save as many trees of
4" caliper and above as possible, and invited staff to
walk the site with the developer to that end. Mr.
Linardic said the plan well exceeded the required 30%
open space and there would be no problem in reducing the
grade of parking areas or height of retaining walls, in
response to Public Works' concern.
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Jim Mantooth, 2238 East Lindberg Road, stated that the
EIS prepared for the 1985 annexation stated that an earth
tone solid cedar fencing would be used. Dr. Mantooth
noted that fencing deficiencies are in both submittals,
and the proposal is for cyclone fencing. He stated that
the developer should be required to extend the fencing to
eliminate access to the Creek.
Mr. Catts questioned Dr. Mantooth as to other areas
outside of this project in this area where access to the
Creek could be gained by anyone who so desired.
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Dr. Mantooth answered that there are no other dense
developments in this area, but the Creek can be accessed
by private land owners with large acreages. He stated
that this project would artificially increase water
drainage to surrounding properties which should not be
allowed. He presented a map indicating the impervious
and open space areas proposed in the current site plan.
He said there is as much as a 45% grade on large amounts
of the open space designated areas. If there are 10
acres of open space, at least 30% (3 acres) should be
easily accessible. Areas should not be designated as
open space if they are not easily accessible by a large
number of people. High density is hazardous to
environmentally sensitive areas landwise, and this is a
very dense development. He requested the rezone be
denied because the proposed PRD is not suitable to this
site.
Richard Terrill, 3123 Old Olympic Highway, stated that
only by trekking through the Creek area can one begin to
realize the fragile ecosystem that exists. He stated the
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site proposal should fit the environment rather than
adapt the environment to fit the site plan; parking
should be screened from the street and fenced and runoff
from the parking area should be filtered; removal of all
vegetation should not be permitted and buildings should
be built around mature trees; no diversion of water to
surrounding properties should be allowed and the
developer should be required to upgrade Lindberg Road due
to the impact of 500 or more cars per day. In closing,
Mr. Terrill stated that this is not the right project for
this site.
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Kent Brauninger, 903 East Park Avenue, was present. Mr.
Brauninger stated that he represented Save Our streams
and his hope was to convince the Commission, staff and
applicant that the proposal is wrong for this site. Mr.
Brauninger presented slides of a devastating landslide
which occurred in 1969-70 of the roadway from the Olympic
National Park Service Headquarters to the Heart Of The
Hills. He was concerned that a comparable slide could
occur in the proposed PRD area due to the similarity soil
composition and topography as well as the like removal of
vegetation to accommodate the development. Pesticides
and herbicides, once absorbed by the heavy vegetation
buffer, could flow freely into the Creek causing chemical
pollution. No fence can keep a child from going under or
around a fence, if they choose to do so.
Tom Shindler, 499 Little River Road, was present
representing the Olympic Trails Coalition. Mr. Shindler
encouraged the adoption of a trail at this time or
anytime in the future along the Creek noting that the
trail would provide a constituency for protection of the
Creek. The Creek trail could connect to other trails
forming a network of trails desired to serve people of
all ages, physical capabilities or handicaps and personal
preferences.
Marie Gruebel, 315 West 15th street, was concerned with
degradation of greenbelts in the name of progress. She
noted that Ennis Creek has survived where other like
areas of the City have not. She urged the Commission to
vote to protect the precious inheritance that we have and
urged repeal of the rezone.
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Jessica Wesler, 911 South Cedar, noted that a proposal of
this type might be needed but should be placed elsewhere
in the City. She urged the Commission to deny the PRO
proposal and return the area to single-family zoning.
Bob Dalton, 812 East 7th Street, stated that he has lived
in the area for 47 years and the salmon fishing has been
saved due to the restoration efforts by local residents.
150 feet is a required riparian zone on both sides of the
Creek. Uncontrolled development should not be allowed on
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Ennis Creek.
Pat Wennekens, 399 Norman street, Sequim, representing
the Twanoh Chapter of the Sierra Club, stated concerns
over the sedimentation pollution which would occur in the
Creek. He stated that sedimentation pollution would
destroy the food source in the stream and that during the
construction phase, extensive retaining ponds would be
necessary to protect the Creek from that erosion.
Culverts are considered point source pollution and
requires an NPDES permit.
Clay Rennie, 401 East vista View, stated that the state
is losing 30,000 acres of environmentally sensitive area
per year. He did not think that local planning
commissions are doing their homework and that is why
Initiative 547 is on the ballot at the present time.
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Don Rudolph, 1013 East Third street, was present
representing the Olympic peninsula Research Association.
Mr. Rudolph stated that the Association supports the
Ennis Creek development because of the area's need for
housing. He urged the Commission to give the proj ect the
okay.
The Planning commission recessed for 10 minutes,
reconvening at 9:30 P.M.
Linda May, 29 Golf Course Road, stated that the proposed
density is too high for this area. Rentals are needed
for the city, but this site is too fragile. The
development doesn't fit the site and the site doesn't fit
the development.
Allen Busenbark, 619 East Park, retired head of the
Clallam County Soils Conservation Service, noted that the
bulk of the site sits on clay which compacts easily and
becomes very hard very quickly when subjected to
construction activity and building. The effect of
additional water on the stream would raise the level of
the stream and cause more erosion as well as chemical
pollution. He stated that soils tests are necessary.
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Duane Wolfe, 2106 East Fourth street, President of the
Peninsula Golf Club was present representing the Board of
Directors of the Golf Club. Mr. Wolfe stated that the
Peninsula Golf Club has recently reached agreement with
the developer on certain issues such as fencing, and are
presently working on a proposal to develop retention
ponds to help alleviate some of the problems on the hill.
Thelma Durham, 673 Reservoir Road, apologized to the
Commission and the applicant for the tone of the speakers
at the public hearing. She stated that she can
understand the desire of the surrounding property owners
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to protect their environment because of its beauty and
seclusion from mUlti-family development. Mrs. Durham
stated that she has been the recipient of 10 - 15 calls
a day this past summer from homeless people desperately
in need of housing. Although it is of the utmost
importance to protect the environment, it is also very
important to provide housing and that need is a desperate
one.
Matt Skerbeck, 2630 Masters Road, stated that the city is
desperately in need of housing. He said that the
developer appears to have tried to comply with the
concerns expressed by extremist groups. There are
hundreds of miles of creeks on the Peninsula, and this
proposal would be a benefit to the community.
will Word, 1339 East Lauridsen Boulevard, stated that he
agreed that housing is a critical need in this area, but
felt those areas that draw people to the area should also
be protected.
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Ron Richards, 313 East Twelfth Street, stated that the
city has gone a long way down the wrong road. He said it
is time to tell the developer that the Creek and our
watershed are greenbelt, and fish runs and the steep
slopes that are being endangered all dictate that this
development not be approved at this site. He said that
the fencing proposal is ludicrous; the clay retention
basins will not work; there is a fish run problem and a
concern of obstruction of the fish ladder under the
Highway. The need for housing does not allow the City to
ignore the other situations which city officials are
bound to consider. Mr. Richards also expressed concern
over a potential appearance of fairness problem because
there are two realtors on the Planning Commission.
Mr. Richards said the City constructed Del Guzzi Drive
and the associated utilities, at a cost of about $700,000
he thought, which is in effect a loan to the developer to
be paid back by tax assessments over the next ten years.
He questioned the open-mindedness of the City when there
would be a potential conflict to protect the ci ty IS
investment.
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In response to a question from Commissioner Leonard
concerning the effectiveness of the retention ponds, Mr.
Richards said that his reason for the statement that the
ponds would be ineffective was from his background as a
chemical engineer and simple common sense. He stated
that due to the composition of the soil in the area,
water would quickly saturate and continually overflow
from the ponds particularly in the rainy season,
rendering the ponds ineffective.
Jim Walton, 333 Viewcrest Avenue, stated that although
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Ennis Creek is not a large creek by comparison, it is a
good fish run creek. He noted the economic value of the
fish run in the Creek. He further stated that it is
difficult to keep people contained in a relatively small
area particularly when a creek is nearly in their
backyard.
In response to a question from Commissioner Leonard, Mr.
Walton indicated that although the Department of
Fisheries stated that a 150-foot buffer would be
sufficient, in his opinion it would not be.
Mike Dougherty, a Port Angeles resident, stated that the
atmosphere provided for children is too restrictive for
children living in the PRD. The school district has not
been consulted in this proposal and he was of the opinion
that a new school bus might be needed due to the
increased number of school aged children.
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Michael Hare, 1225 Deer Park Road, stated that he is not
happy with the growth that has occurred in the city in
the past few years. There are more stop lights, more
fast food restaurants, and the area looks too much like
too many other towns. He questioned whether this area is
hurting for land to develop housing in, and stated that
Port Angeles does not need housing in the Ennis Creek
Valley.
Jim Nelson, 1121 West 17th Street, supported what had
previously been said by Dr. Jim Walton, concerning the
need to preserve fisheries in the area for socio-economic
reasons.
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Robbie Mantooth, 2238 East Lindberg Road, noted the
concerns previously expressed by the Planning Commission
in review of this PRD proposal. She stated that a
significant reduction in the density would reduce the
impact to the area. The City has given the developer
enough time to show good faith and no further time or
money should be spent to review a plan that will not work
without a decrease in density. She urged the City to
take the appropriate action and deny the proposal. Mrs.
Mantooth noted for the record that she had not objected
to the 1985 annexation or single-family proposals for
this site but said the site plan for development proposed
in the annexation indicated development at a density
nowhere near that at which the current proposal requests.
Mrs. Mantooth stated that if the Planning commission
proceeds with the rezone, it is unlikely that the courts
will allow it to go through. From the evidence now
available, there is no reason to turn what should be the
responsibility of local public officials to the courts.
She urged the Commission to take the appropriate action.
Jan Hare, 2136 East Lindberg Road, noted that in her
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recollection, the members of the peninsula Golf Course
had not voted on a stand for or against the project. She
said she has no objection to single-family or multi-
family units in the area. Her objection is to the
density proposed.
Ann Murray, 1502 East Lauridsen Boulevard, stated concern
over air pollution from the automobile exhausts and the
double impact of that air pollution being increased
without the trees to aid in filtering polluted air. She
said she is certain the Commissioners realize the
importance of the right for all species to exist in
deliberating this proposal. Whatever we do in 1990, it is
important to not have done it at the expense of non-human
species. She said that possibly no development should be
allowed east of Del Guzzi Drive, as it does not seem
possible to develop that area without irreparable damage
to species involved. In closing, she said that this
project has four specific areas: human needs; human
wants; non-human protection; and corporate profits.
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Bill Williams, 1308 East Front, Apartment 7, stated that
the area is too sensitive for development.
overdevelopment can do irreparable damage to this
sensitive area.
David Howatt, 29 Golf Course Road, said he observed a
heron fishing in the Creek and bobcat and black bear
tracks all within two miles of the proposed development.
There is no way a lS0-foot buffer can protect the habitat
of these animals. The last surviving stream in Port
Angeles is no place for the largest development in Port
Angeles. He urged the Commissioners to build the project
elsewhere other than in this sensitive area.
There being no further testimony, Chairman Leonard opened
the hearing to rebuttal, which, he noted, would be
limited to rebuttal of statements previously made.
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Duane Wolfe, 2106 West Fourth street, stated that he
wished to correct an untruthful statement which had been
previously made. He said that for the past several years
he had been the City'S Finance Director, and had the
knowledge to correct the statement indicating that the
City has a $700,000 investment in the development. Mr.
Wolfe said the City has no investment in the development.
The City facilitated the establishment of Del Guzzi Drive
and associated improvements through establishment of a
local improvement district. Payment for the improvements
is based entirely on assessments for that property. If
those payments are not made, the debt will go into
default but the City has absolutely no obligation.
In response to a question from Chairman Leonard, Mr.
Wolfe said that the new light signal on Highway 101 at
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Del Guzzi Drive was a requirement of the Department of
Transportation.
Ron Richards stated that from his knowledge of how LIDs
are formed, it is that the government loans the money to
the project which is paid back in taxes. He said the
City built Del Guzzi Drive and the associated
improvements and they might be paid back, but whether or
not there is enough development to support a $700,000
road depends on how much development is there. Single-
family development on the road might not payoff the
investment, so you might have some reason to allow a
higher density development than you should really have.
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Following extensive discussion, City Attorney craig
Knutson answered that bonds were sold to private
investors, so the City is not putting up money for the
LID. The money is being financed. Ultimately the
property is on the hook for the pay back in the event of
default by the developer. An obligation becomes a lien
against the property, if the Obligation is not met, the
property is subject to being foreclosed upon to payoff
the debt. Mr. Knutson indicated that he is not a bond
counsel, but the process was scrutinized by bond counsel
as well as the underwriter's who are responsible for
market ing the bonds and it was Mr. Knutson's
understanding that if there was not enough value in the
property, the bonds would not have been issued,
regardless of how the property is developed.
In response to a question from Commissioner Leonard, Mr.
Wolfe stated that the LID bond is a special assessment
bond. A special assessment bond pledges only the
assessments against the property and the city acts only
to facilitate the collection and payment of the bonds.
If a default is made the bond holders have no recourse to
the city. The city has up-front costs which are paid out
of the proceeds of the notes; the notes are paid out of
the proceeds of the bonds. There is no obligation to the
city.
Bill Wilbert, 13850 Bel-Red Road, Bellevue, Washington,
stated that architects, engineers, biologists and other
specialists had been consulted in the project proposal.
Mr. wilbert urged the Commission to make a decision on
the proposal.
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Robbie Mantooth, 2238 East Lindberg Road, said that she
did not think a significant decrease in density has been
made, that the elimination of the 84 bed-elderly facility
and 25 multi-family units is not a significant decrease.
There being no further comment, the Commission took a 10-
minute break, reconvening at 10:50 P.M.
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Commissioner Catts questioned Mr. Wilbert as to his
reasons for the selection of the property at Ennis Creek.
Mr. Wilbert answered that there were no other properties
in the close price range of this property or with its
proximity to shopping, schools, hospitals and the
infrastructure.
Mr. Catts questioned whether soils tests had been done
for specific building sites.
Mr. Wilbert said there had been no specific site tests
done due to the unknown areas of the buildings prior to
an approved site plan. However, he said engineering
tests had been done in seven different areas, which were
submitted to the city. He answered specific questions
about foundation plans.
Mr. Catts asked whether the tennis courts encroach into
the buffer zone, and if they would be lit.
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Mr. wilbert answered that the tennis courts would not be
lit, would be approximately 250 yards from the Mantooth
property and surrounded by a 12-foot cyclone fence.
In response to a further question from Commissioner Catts
concerning the background of the proposal, Mr. wilbert
said that in 1984, Del Hur anticipated doing a 114-unit
single-family golf course development for the weal thy
upper class. In September, 1989, Del Hur analyzed the
housing situation in Port Angeles, and determined that
there was a need for multiple family housing units and
that a project of this type could meet that need. A
condition of rezone of the property to residential multi-
family to accommodate such a development included a
condition of a successful PRD proposal.
Jim Hulett questioned Mr. Wilbert concerning drainage.
Mr. Wilbert responded that water from the site would be
directed through a filtration unit and to the Creek
itself. A hydraulics permit would be required.
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There being no further comment, Chairman Leonard closed
the public hearing.
Ray Gruver did not perceive that the developer had put
together a project that would make sense for this
property. He was not convinced that this project meets
the community's needs in its present form. He said that
comments from the public concerning the placement of
multi-family structures along the west side of Del Guzzi
Drive made a lot of sense. He added that environmental
issues and density concerns had not been adequately taken
into account by the developer. He said that his
preference is to deny the PRD proposal without prejudice
in order to give the applicant an answer, and to allow
the developer to return at a later date with a PRD
proposal suitable to the property.
William Anabel stated that he is of the opinion that the
particular setting for the PRD is wrong as presented. He
said that the project is too ambitious a project for this
location, and all development east of Del Guzzi Drive
should be drastically reduced or entirely eliminated. He
noted for the record that the Planning commission had
taken a lot of implied criticism from the audience, and
that is wrong. People have worked hard and brought up a
lot of good points and the Planning Commission has worked
very hard to review the proposals and all the information
presented, as well as listening to the public's concerns.
He said an apology was due the Planning Commissioners
from most of those present.
Bob Philpott noted that a project of this type is needed
in Port Angeles. There is always going to be someone who
does not want a project in their neighborhood, but these
types of proj ects are needed in Port Angeles. Mr.
Philpott said that Plan B has value because it protects
the Creek environment more so than Plan A. Port Angeles
will grow and change and the need for housing will grow
with it.
Jim Hulett spoke of his concern over the parking. He
said that possibly there should be a reduction in the
number of units rather than adjusting the units to the
parking stalls.
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Chairman Leonard questioned the reasons for denial of the
project at this point. He said that in his opinion the
developer had acted in good faith and had responded to
the Commission's concerns as listed at the August 30th
meeting. He did not see that there were areas the
developer had not attempted to address or correct
following the August 30th meeting. He said the
Commission should have told the developer in August if
the concerns expressed over the inappropriateness of the
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proposal to the site were that genuinely felt, and that
possibly there should not be any development, or more
restrictive usage of the property east of Del Guzzi
Drive. He said that a lot of time, effort and money had
been expended on both the City's and developer's part due
to that apparent oversight.
Roger Catts was concerned that the proposal might not be
entirely appropriate for the area. He said that the
plans needed to be further revised, but that most of the
concerns could probably be mitigated. He noted the
testimony received concerning the stability of soils,
chance of landslides and the fragile environment.
At Commissioner Leonard's request, the Commission
reviewed their instructions to the applicant from the
meeting of August 30th, on areas requiring modification,
issue by issue. It was the consensus that all of the
concerns listed had been addressed by the applicant;
however, density was not explicitly discussed, and the
elimination of Lot 2 would not reduce the density
significantly.
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Bill Anabel suggested that single-family homes only
should be allowed east of Del Guzzi Drive, and west of
Del Guzzi Drive might be multi-family. Perhaps the
condominiums could be cut down to accommodate the parking
and provision of playgrounds should be further addressed.
Very lengthy discussion ensued on the density. It was
decided that the project should be considered on its own
merits rather than on profit concerns.
In response to Commissioner Leonard, Mr. wilbert asked
the Planning Commission to make a decision without
further delays.
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Following extended discussion on the possibility of
redesign of the PRD, Mr. Knutson informed the Commission
that the developer's attorney had just informed him that
a Plan "C" along the lines of what the Commission had
been describing would not be acceptable to the developer.
Mr. Knutson indicated that it was his opinion that the
Commission's discussion would be valuable to the
developer and to the City council and the public what
type of PRO the Commission would consider to be
acceptable, but that it might not be a worthwhile use of
the Commission's time at this point to continue
discussion at this point.
Mr. Hulett stated that the only course of action
apparently open to the Commission would be to direct
staff to come back with findings and conclusions to deny
the PRD, without prejudice.
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Mr. Knutson said that the Commission could direct the
staff to compose proposed findings and conclusions that
would support a decision of denial. staff could also
indicate in the findings and conclusions what level of
PRO would be acceptable, which would give some guidance
to explain the Commission's thinking on the subject.
Bob Philpott spoke in favor of the possibility of
modification to Plan B to cut out some of the units to
bring the project in line with the parking provided.
Ray Gruver said that he was not convinced that everything
east of Del Guzzi Drive has to be single-family; perhaps
a duplex or four-plex would be appropriate. Mr. Gruver
said that the lower the density, the greater the
probabili ty of reduction of the impact to the Creek,
neighbors and community. He restated his support of
greatly reducing the density on the east side of Del
Guzzi Drive.
The Commission reached a consensus to direct staff to
prepare findings and conclusions to deny the PRD proposal
at the November 14, 1990, meeting.
4It V. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 1:20 A.M.
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