HomeMy WebLinkAboutTranscript 10/07/2003 Excerpt from October 7,2003, City Council minutes regarding Downtown Waterline and Sidewalks, Phase III,
Project Scope for Downtown Pavers:
Public Works&Utilities Director Cutler advised the Council that the City applied for two loans for the downtown
watermain and sidewalk project,one being from the Public Works Trust Fund and the other being from the
Drinking Water State Revolving Fund. The City received notification recently that the Public Works Trust Fund
loan will be recommended to the Legislature and,with the City's application in the middle of funding availability,
there is a high level of confidence that the funding will be forthcoming. However,concerning the Drinking Water
State Revolving Fund loan,the City's application was beyond the funds available at the present time,but Director
Cutler noted that the Public Works Trust Fund will accommodate the project,to include the waterlines,the
sidewalks over the waterlines, as well as the sidewalk work on the west side of Laurel Street from Railroad
Avenue to First Street. Following a presentation by Deputy Director of Engineering Services Kenworthy,the
Council will be asked to provide staff with direction as to the scope of the project,particularly as it applies to the
sidewalks on Laurel Street and the option of filling in the area or preserving some of the underground in that
particular area by installing a structural sidewalk.
Deputy Director Kenworthy,using PowerPoint slides, explained this is the final phase of the downtown
improvements project. The first phase involved sidewalks on First Street between Lincoln and Laurel,down
Laurel and Lincoln to Railroad, and along Railroad. The second phase completed Front Street between Lincoln
and Laurel and the east side of Laurel,from Railroad to First, and a short section on the north side of Front Street
in front of the restaurant and Budget Rent-a-Car. This third phase will continue to the west along First Street and
down toward Marine Drive with waterline replacement and along both sides of First Street to Oak. In addition,
loan funds were also requested for the west side of Laurel Street, as well as the north side of Front between Laurel
and Oak.
Deputy Director Kenworthy summarized the options for the project and the associated costs. Costs for waterline
and sidewalk replacement were projected at$2,050,000; Laurel Street pavers from Railroad to First Street,with no
underground preservation,were projected at$350,000. Laurel pavers,plus preservation of the underground from
Front Street to the alley,were estimated at$100,000, and Laurel pavers with preservation of the underground from
Front to First were calculated at$200,000. Deputy Director Kenworthy explained the loan matching funds,
indicating that utility funds could be used as a match for the waterline and sidewalk portion of the project.
However,matching funds for the underground would need to originate from the Government Fund/CFP. Mr.
Kenworthy also reviewed the different loan payments that could be expected based on the option selected. Mayor
Wiggins inquired as to the total amount approved for the loan, and Deputy Director Kenworthy responded the total
grant is$2,600,000. He further clarified that the additional$30,000 or$15,000 for matching funds has not yet
been approved,thus necessitating the discussion this evening. Mr. Kenworthy showed pictures of the area in
question, explaining the options specific to each area. He directed the Council's attention to the communications
vault midway between First and Front on Laurel,requiring access to the two underground sections from different
locations. After further discussion,Mayor Wiggins invited public input.
Cherie Kidd, 101 E. 10', asked the Council to not bury the underground, as it is the City's past,present, and
future. Representing three generations of a Port Angeles family,Ms. Kidd felt the underground is an important
part of the City's history and that every decision made by the City Council must be far reaching and for the future.
Ms. Kidd emphasized the importance of the downtown area needing economic revitalization, and many cities have
used their unique heritage to establish a tourist destination. Citing examples of different areas that have succeeded
in such ventures,Ms. Kidd felt that Port Angeles could capitalize on its potential to draw tourists to the
underground. She indicated the Port Angeles Business Association had met earlier in the day and voted
unanimously to endorse the preservation of the downtown underground on the west side of Laurel Street and to
consider providing financial assistance for the preservation of this cause. Ms. Kidd urged the Council to use its
vision by retaining the underground.
Russ Veenema, Chamber of Commerce Executive Director, asked the Council and the community to think beyond
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just the underground,but to think more in terms of heritage tourism which is playing a large role in the entire
country. Mid-June through mid-September,the Chamber of Commerce, along with Don Perry, started daily
underground tours. Just less than 600 people went on the tours at a cost of$8.00 per person, and feedback has
been quite good. During Heritage Weekend,tours were conducted of the downtown,but the tours went beyond just
the underground. The heritage tours involved several hundred people, and they included downtown tours,trolley
tours, and clock tower tours, all of which focused on the area's heritage. The Chamber attempts to attract visitors
as overnight guests, and he acknowledged the tours have not been overly successful in drawing people specifically
for the tours. However,it does provide Port Angeles with a marketing niche and,in keeping with the creation of
product,much has been accomplished in terms of heritage with the renovation of the Carnegie Library,the County
Courthouse, and Family Shoes. Mr.Veenema felt that these positive,collective efforts go a long way as a tourism
draw for the downtown. Mr.Veenema felt the City and the community should consider this a joint effort, as the
building owners should help create the desired product;he offered the Chamber's assistance in facilitating such a
partnership.
Betty Sleeper, 111 W. 14',having worked with underground tourism for several years, sees a great potential for
keeping tourists in Port Angeles. She felt the underground is part of the package of the entire heritage tour and,
regretting that much of the underground has already been filled, she urged the City Council to retain the areas that
remain. Ms. Sleeper noted that people taking the tours have been extremely enthusiastic,wanting to know more of
the area's history, and she offered kudos to Kevin Thompson for the renovation of the brothel above the shoe store.
Cindy Perry, 1735 W. 13', a 22-year-old tour guide of the underground,has been completely enchanted with the
stories and sites of the tour. Ms.Perry related how excited the public has been to tour the underground. She felt
that the underground is as much a landmark as the old Church,the Carnegie Library, and the Family Shoe Store.
She emphasized that the underground is part of the City's past,which is what makes the future, and she felt that
destruction of the underground would destroy part of the soul of Port Angeles. Living stories of the past would be
destroyed to only a faint memory, and she asked that the underground be retained.
Don Perry, 1735 W. 13',read a statement relating that tourism can be the solution to the economic difficulties
created by reduced logging,fishing, and mill closures. He indicated that Port Angeles has mountains,water,close
proximity to major cities, animals,climate,trees,rivers,lakes, and most important,history. He was uncertain as to
whether the community understands the uniqueness of what happened in 1914, and the issue isn't whether
retention of the underground is affordable but,rather,where the money can be found to save the underground. He
was amazed that the retention of the underground is being viewed in terms of costs when,in fact,it should be
viewed as an investment in the future of Port Angeles. Mr.Perry cited the success of Atlanta, Seattle, and
Pendleton underground areas, and he reviewed the success of the tours conducted thus far in Port Angeles,
something that recently received accolades in The Olympian. Mr.Perry felt that the development of the
underground should be a priority for every business person in the City in terms of revenue that can be produced.
Before a decision is made in this regard,he urged the Council to conduct a public meeting to receive input from
the taxpayers. He asked the Council to leave the underground as it is with minor improvements and, as a taxpayer,
he indicated he would like to see a return on his investment with this opportunity.
Peter Ripley, 114 E. 6',Apt. 102,urged the Council to not squander this opportunity to bring in tourists, and he
urged the Council to do whatever it takes to help in this endeavor.
Barbara Frederick, 515 South Laurel,was present as Secretary to the Board of the Port Angeles Downtown
Association. She read a letter into the record from the Downtown Association recommending a compromise to not
save the underground area on the north side of Front Street between Laurel and Oak Street,but to save the corridor
and bridge the west side of Laurel between First Street and Front Street.
Lorraine Ross,940 W. 5', a member of the City Council in the 1970's,recalled past history of the community, as
well as the beauty and character of the basement in the old City Hall in the downtown area. Many years ago, she
advocated the preservation of these historical areas,to include the underground, and she has been pleased that
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individuals such as Jackson Smart have led the charge to save these areas. Over the last thirty years, a great deal
of the City's history has been destroyed, and Ms. Ross urged the City Council to find the necessary funds to save
the underground so that it,too,won't be lost over a period of time.
Kevin Thompson, 130 W. Front Street,owner of Family Shoes,indicated that most of the underground has been
lost and,in spite of what he has done to his building and what others have done improving their buildings,there is
nothing without the underground to tie the tours together.
Jackson Smart,472 Mt.Pleasant Road,related how he first heard of a mural in an old building in Port Angeles
and,uncovering a dormant part of Port Angeles history,he realized that something needed to be done to capitalize
on the City's heritage. The first time he saw the old storefront on Laurel Street and walked out the wooden doors,
he felt as if he were stepping out into 1914. There was such an impact on him that he set out to learn the history of
the area. Although he is not from Port Angeles,he indicated that his heart is here. He felt the Council
understands the importance of the underground, and that it will make the right decision.
Diane Markley, 104 N. Laurel Street, is owner of the building known as the Bondelid Building,which is on the
corner of First and Laurel, extending north to the stain glass shop on Laurel. Ms. Markley has been working on
preserving the building for the past four years and is very much in favor of the underground. She felt Mr. Perry
has done a great job putting the tours together,yet her one concern as a property owner is safety and sidewalk
design. It appears that the sidewalks are hinging off of her building. If the area is filled,then she questioned the
possibility of extra water seepage, as she presently has water under her building. If,however,there is a way to
support the existing sidewalk, she would be in favor of that option,with the possibility of opening the existing
stairway that is under the building. Deputy Director Kenworthy addressed the matter of drainage if the area were
filled, stating that such a problem would be fixed at the time of the project work. Some temporary repairs have
already been accomplished but, either way,that potential problem will be fixed. Ms. Markley indicated that, as a
property owner, she would prefer to see the underground saved. If there is a way to structurally support the
sidewalk without filling it in, she felt that would accommodate everyone's wishes.
Andrew May,483 W. Ridge Road,felt that Port Angeles will be much more than just flowers,Art on the Town,or
Waterfront Trail. He indicated it is when everything comes together with the estuaries and the murals that the City
becomes a renaissance town. He acknowledged Mr.Veenema's earlier comments in that it is the packaging of the
product that becomes important in terms of offering a unique experience. Mr. May asked the Council to remember
the importance of having things for people to do when they are waiting for the ferries, and their experience will be
filled with a very unique history of a very unique place. He has no doubt that they will stay longer or choose to
return at a later date. Mr. May felt this is an integrated part that fills a very important niche that is needed right
now.
Larry Doyle,3115 City Lights Place, asked the Council to take a hard look at how it spends taxpayer money and
how long it is committing taxpayers to loans for projects being considered. He agreed that tourism is the highest
priority now that fishing and timber have diminished,but he felt no action should be taken on the brick pavers
until the time the abutting property owners have given a solid commitment. He suggested leaving the area as is, so
that it can be developed in the future if the property owners are so inclined to participate in the project. Just having
the underground preserved will not likely satisfy the underground tour business, and Mr. Doyle recalled past
conjectures that businesses would be developed underground. He was uncertain if the business owners were fully
aware that they had basements that could be developed. He reiterated his suggestion to leave the area as is,but he
offered caution in terms of liability issues as relates to the tours.
Peter Ripley, 114 E. 6',Apt. 102,raised the issue of accessibility to the underground in keeping with ADA
requirements. Deputy Director Kenworthy indicated there is some leeway in the ADA but,to make the area
accessible to that depth, a ramp would be required and because of the length involved,much of the underground
would be taken up just for the ramp. He indicated there are provisions that ADA requirements can be bypassed in
confined spaces of historic sites.
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Bill Thomas,473 S. Bagley Creek Rd.,just opened a business with his wife in Port Angeles at 110 Laurel Street.
As a relative newcomer,he was excited about being in Port Angeles. Mr. Thomas could see the potential of the
town, and he felt the underground is an important part of the overall picture. It is not the only picture,but he felt it
important to save the heritage of the City. He offered to help in any way possible, and he spoke of the natural
beauty in the area,urging the Council to do whatever possible to preserve and protect the City to make it what it
could be.
Arla Holzschuh,Executive Director of the Port Angeles Downtown Association, 105 '/z E. First Street, advised the
Council that she had just finished tallying the numbers for the past six years for the downtown area that may
provide credibility to what can happen in a community. In October, 1997,the City made a concerted effort to
invest the community's money in the downtown area by replacing watermains and sidewalks. That investment
began a downtown renaissance, as the brick pavers created an atmosphere. The art work that was brought in also
created an atmosphere. In the past six years,the City, and the Port with the Landing Mall,has invested$5.8
million in the downtown. As of this afternoon,her numbers indicate that the downtown property owners and
businesses have contributed in reinvestment since October 1, 1997, a total of$14,011,000. The community as a
whole is reinvesting in its heritage, such as Kevin Thompson's facade. The City is no longer recognizable because
of recent efforts to work to the future by remembering the past.
Don Perry, 1735 W. 13',returned to the podium to address the issue of disabled access. He described the idea of
using an old service elevator for this purpose with the possibility of obtaining one in Seattle. Otherwise, some type
of elevator assistance could be provided with a design similar to the old service elevators of the past. In addition,
the question of whether the tours would be the same without the underground,he felt the answer was no, as there is
a 25-minute pictorial presentation that explains the underground and how it was done, something that is
tremendously accepted.
Cindy Perry, 1735 W. 13',returned to the podium and shared the story of a 4-year-old begging to see the
underground. The youngster was in awe of the underground,which shows that people are on the tour just to see
the underground.
Discussion ensued, and Councilmember Erickson asked for more information from Ms. Kidd about the financial
support committed to by the PABA. Ms. Kidd responded the PABA commitment is just the beginning of financial
support from the entire community, as the Clallam County Underground Society is about to be formed. The PABA
made the first offering for the preservation of the underground to a level of several hundred dollars. Ms. Kidd
cited the Atlanta underground and similar success that could be realized in Port Angeles.
Councilmember Erickson raised the question that,if Phase III were pursued with the replacement of watermains,is
there anything that would prevent the City from borrowing money later for the underground. Director Cutler said
nothing precludes the City from applying for a loan again,but one of the main selling points was the work on the
watermain that helped sell the entire package. He was uncertain how the City would score in an application
process if it related only to sidewalks and a small section of the underground. Mayor Wiggins indicated that
mobilization costs of a small project should be considered because the costs are higher. The Mayor also pointed
out the advantage of a 1/2%interest factor. Citing budget discussions, Councilmember Erickson suggested there
may be other sources of funding for this portion of the project, such as lodging tax funds. Director Cutler indicated
design efforts will be underway in 2004 with actual construction in 2005. If the Council would like to defer giving
direction to staff until a later date,the design work for Laurel Street can be deferred and the main focus placed on
the watermain. If a structural sidewalk is selected for the west side of Laurel,Director Cutler envisioned a
consultant would be engaged for the design.
Councilmember Rogers advocated not spending money, as she felt it would be preferable to leave the west side of
Laurel Street as it is. Part of the historical value of that area is the sidewalk with its original glass blocks. The
costs in the staff memo only represent the proposed cost of a structure to support the pavers and,if pavers are used,
the historical value is lost. The alternative is to do absolutely nothing unless,because of a safety issue, something
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needs to be shored up. To that end,Mayor Wiggins inquired if there could be a seismic issue related to the
building and the deteriorating pavement. Director Cutler responded that all buildings need maintenance in order
to protect their structural integrity, and some action may need to be taken on the sidewalk on the west side of
Laurel Street to assure the safe passage of people on that particular section. Whether it is replacement with
structural sidewalk or taking interim measures, something will eventually need to be done. Director Cutler
proposed that this option be studied in greater detail with the necessary fixes and associated costs identified for the
Council's consideration. In response to an inquiry from Mayor Wiggins,Deputy Director Kenworthy felt it
unlikely that the Public Works Trust Fund loan could be used for a shoring of the sidewalk. He asked for
clarification as to whether this option would include only the portion of Laurel between First and Front,or if it
would also include the block to Railroad.
Councilman Braun expressed concern that water is running under Ms. Markley's building;he asked that this
matter be rectified and that the integrity of that sidewalk be assured. Deputy Director Kenworthy reiterated that
the City would definitely make provisions for remedying the situation. Councilman Williams spoke in support of
preserving the underground, and he noted the number of influential economic-based groups supporting this
endeavor. He felt it has been demonstrated that there is an interest and an economic draw, as money is collected
from weekly tours, and there is an expectation of contributions beyond that. He felt that all of the questions have
been answered from two years ago. Mayor Wiggins felt that the reality of the underground is that the underground
could be bridged, $200,000+could be spent, and the City could wait for a long time for private investment. He
envisioned the possibility that the City would have borrowed the money to make this type of investment on the
potential hope that someone will do something in that area to attract tourists. He suggested that,if something is
going to be done in the underground,then ventilation, access on two sides, lighting, and security will be required.
There are many issues that are not addressed or funded by the$200,000 being considered. Councilman Headrick
was previously unfamiliar with the underground and, after having toured the area and gathered further
information,he now agrees the underground should be preserved. This preservation could be accomplished in
different forms, and he reviewed the financial ramifications upon the General Fund, suggesting that the
underground be left as it is. Further,he suggested that up to$50,000 be provided for structural enhancement for
the underground,with the expectation that the community,property owners, and civic organizations will step up
and provide support for this. He felt that, as a historical site,the underground is worth much more exactly as it is
right now than it would be with a lid. He compared the lid to putting paint on antique furniture; the aesthetic value
should not be destroyed. Therefore, Councilman Headrick moved to leave the underground as it is,to allow
and support its development with funds for structural enhancement, and to leave it to the community to
further develop this area. The motion was seconded by Councilman Braun. Mayor Wiggins sought
clarification that the motion is related to the 300 feet from First Street to Front Street. Councilman Headrick
realized this was the area of main focus;however,he could see no reason to not leave the block to Railroad open as
well. Councilman Williams offered information about the underground between Railroad and Front Street.
Councilman Headrick indicated his motion would include both blocks,from Railroad to First Street on the
west side of Laurel. Councilmember Erickson queried as to how much in funding would be committed by the
City; and Councilman Headrick clarified his intention that up to$50,000 would be made available from
different sources,whether from lodging taxes, real estate taxes,or other sources. After further discussion, a
vote was taken on the motion,which carried unanimously.
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