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Home My WebLink About4704 Old Mill Rd - Building CITY OF PORT ANGELES DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT - BUILDING DIVISION 321 EAST 5TH STREET, PORT ANGELES, WA 98362 OfPORr ~-I'",&. ^:'~(o:<': "r'6i ~ ~ ~- "tiiucw:J'<-P . 05-00000573 Date 879765 4704 S OLD MILL RD 06-30-22-2-3-0000-0000~ PUBLIC WORKS UTI LITES 7/08/05 f)'J- ~c:;- "7 3' Application Number Application pin number Property Address ASSESSOR PARCEL NUMBER: Application type description Subdivision Name Property Use Property zoning . . . Application valuation RS9 RESDNTL SINGLE FAMILY o Owner Contractor JOHNSON WOODROW M 4704 OLD MILL RD PORT ANGELES OWNER 47D4S(f)L~~e fA} /I~{4U Jdfurtft1f./L, 4? 7'7?V 7 WA 983621912 Permit . . . . . Additional desc . Permit pin number Permit Fee Issue Date Expiration Date PUBLIC WORKS RES WATER SERV 53983 715.00 7/08/05 1/04/06 Plan Check Fee Valuation .00 o Qty Unit Charge Per ~xt' 1.00 715.0000 EA PW W/M I" SERV 5/B" METER 715.00 ----~-----------------~--------------------~----------------~---- --------- special Notes and Comments 07/0B/2005 08:55 AM RVESS ------------------------------ Certification is required that 1. The existing well has been disconnected from the house plumbing. or 2. A back flow prevention device has been installed between the customer side of the water meter and the house. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~:~:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~;~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~;25.~ Fee summary Charged Paid Credited Due Permit Fee Total Plan Check Total Other Fee Total Grand Total 715.00 .00 1025.00 1740.00 715.00 .00 1025.00 1740.00 .00 .00 .00 .00 .00 .00 .00 .00 { AJ .00 / (; V \'~ O~1' . IJ J 0 lJ \,C\ \) Vv 4,\1i ,(Jl \ /~ ,l Y\ c. 1'" r>!'^ ~ .,,1,0 , \.f'0~V 'f.-eV ~<v\' I 'i~ ~~Y\M' \{J ~~I . ~CVJ bt\)~\ \~ CjIJ\'\ ~ 6 ~~ l;Ji ~\1 Separate Permits are required for electrical work, SEPA, Shoreline, ESA, utilities, private and public improvements. This permit becomes null and void if work or construction authorized is not commenced within 180 days, if construction or work is suspended or abandoned for a period of 180 days after the work as commenced, or if required inspections have not been requested within 180 days from the last inspection. I hereby certify that I have read and examined this application and know the same to be true and correct. All provisions of laws and ordinances governing this type of work will be complied with whether specified herein or not. The granting of a permit does not presume to give authority to violate or cancel the provisions of any state or local law regulating construction or the performance of construction. -I' Signature of Contractor or Authorized Agent Dale T:\Policies\ 1102_! 5 building penllit inspection rccord05.\vpd [1/4/2005j . 1-- . .u...... APPLICATION FOR WATERW.o''503'-18- tL '7 , City Water Division Port Angeles, Washington 07-D8 os ,20_ I hereby apply for water to be furnished in accordance with rates and rules of the City for the following premises: Name of Applicant: \N oed. (,OW M j c ,^-",,56\'\. Address: 'irOl{ So. old M ~ LLR.!. Renewal 0 New Service mSlk. Lot ?..~" D Addsu...... Y3CJ- fl50 I, 5- II Size of S"rvice I ~ V~ Service Lelt On 0 Service Left Off rYI Signe 457-53b7 Installed by Remarks: f'1U'",,:t 1:\-05-5/3 .it / jS~ +!/IID2$;~ :t"'!o~e c.:l-t 'Rc:\,~e.. 'r , " N \~~~ w ~cnlJl'V:f QQ... E J .", > ~ ~ ~\'J 'i\! 't '- , ..... -S '. ~ ~ ~G0 ".:i s ~ u i "''''\T,-",- ,""",," " """"-;';;'"'" -==~ "= ,~ From: To: Subject Trenia Funston William Bloor utility question Bill, We have a customer who lives at 4704 South Old Mill Road. A portion of his property is within the City limits and a portion in the county. The house sits in the county portion. Back in 2005 he requested water service from the City. After much discussion it was determined that the City could serve him but the rate for the water service would be at the outside rate because the residence receiving service was physically located outside the City. He was not required to have solid waste service. He is now asking to be considered inside the city limits so he could pay inside rates. Question. Should we continue to consider him as an out of city limits customer? Or if we considered him as an inside city customer for water service then shouldn't he pay for solid waste also? I have attached a picture showing his property and the city limit line. You help is much appreciated. Trenia cc: Steve Sperr; Tracy Rooks Page11 \ Q704-S 011 ~ e{-" IIj/30/2008fTrenia Funston - Re: Fwd:~b-~~Q)dMill R2 ~ ===-~-~ Page 11 " .; From: To: Date: Subject: Steve Sperr Funston, Trenia 1/30/20082:35 PM Re: Fwd: 4704 Old Mill Rd cc: Roberds, Sue Trenia, I think that perhaps this is a question for the DCED and/or City Attorney's office to determine, Le. where are the City limits at that location. Having said that, I seem to remember telling him several years ago that if his house - which is the residence receiving service - is physically located outside the City, then that is what determines that he has to pay 150% of City rates, per PAMC. >>> Trenia Funston 1/30/2008 12:33 PM >>> Steve, Do you want to make the call on this one? If he is outside for garbage collection then he is outside for water rate too, wouldn't you say? tf >>> Tracy Rooks 10/22/20073:03 PM >>> I received an e-mail from Claudia Stromski on October 8th stating that Woodrow Johnson at 4704 Old Mill Rd is not required to have solid waste service like his neighbors because he is outside the city Ilmits. He agrees but claims that half of his property is inside city limits, so he should be allowed to pay inside water rates instead of outside. Can you verify this? Thank You! , ,'" ~>'4~ , \ .. \ , . \ '--,-. ....,. ,'"'. U-~'.'I ,;'~; ~t '. fie.' ~ ~ "Lt;! :ti~"'I;A.t 3~" '"if ,.,,~ ',;';".1-"" J - - ~'"^'_" . ~' ~, ~.~ .~: .<;: .'1- ~ .. -&~. :~a' .3' ~ -, ~\.": .r {!~ -, !€ 1, H~t " 1. H~ 'II ht Hr h} !l, t ~ j 'ii , ~ I ! l . ! , ~ I . < .j ~ ~~ <f\ \(' ~ (: \ -K~ ~~ C'j tt ~ I::\( ~ "-'.J ~c .. ., II2/1/2008) Trer;ra-Funston - Re: utility question = P~ge 11 From: To: 'Date: Subject: Attachments: William Bloor Trenia Funston 2(1(2008 11 :36 AM Re: utility question William Bloor.vcf cc: Steve Sperr In this instance, two responses are possible: 1. Our ordinance, 13.22.040, addresses water service outside the city limits. In this case, the service is outside. So, the customer pays the outside rate, 2. Our ordinance does not expressly address a situation where property is half in and half out. Where a situation is not expressly covered, the Directors of Finance and of PW&U are authorized to promulgate policies and rules as they deem appropriate, 13,28,100, If they want, they could made a policy that, in a half/ half situation, a customer can be treated as a city resident if he signs up for all city utilities, or something along those lines. So, continue to treat the customer as outside the city, until and unless the two Directors agree to a different treatment for the half / half situation, Call if you want to discuss this further. Bill William E. Bloor City Attorney Port Angeles 360 4174S31 wbloor@cityofpa.us ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION CONFIDENTIAL NOT FOR PUBLIC RELEASE >>> Trenia Funston 1/31/2008 11:32 AM >>> Bill, We have a customer who lives at 4704 South Old Mill Road. A portion of his property is within the City limits and a portion in the county. The house sits in the county portion. Back in 2005 he requested water service from the City. After much discussion it was determined that the City could serve him but the rate for the water service would be at the outside rate because the residence receiving service was physically located outside the City. He was not required to have solid waste service. He is now asking to be conSidered inside the city limits so he could pay inside rates. Question. Should we continue to consider him as an out of city limits customer? Or if we considered him as an inside city customer for water service then shouldn't he pay for solid waste also? I have attached a picture showing his property and the city limit line. You help is much appreciated. Trenia